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Automotive News & Views Is Ford's End Right Behind Chrysler's?
180 messages, Last post on Nov 08, 2007 at 7:04 PM
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The Big 2 1/2 are in denial. They mock the American buyer with terrible cars year in and out. I've traveled all over the world and see Fords on European roads. There good vehicals but can't buy them in the States. Why? Somehow Ford forget the "phrase give them what they want"! Poor leadership, bad designes equal slumping sales. For years America made the best truck in the world..period. Today, we can't make that claim. Instead of giving us well made mid size cars to compete with Asia and Europe we get the "500" or the Tarus.
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Replying to: jpmeir (May 18, 2007 3:46 am)
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Replying to: scape2 (May 18, 2007 6:35 pm) Depends on what you need in a truck. One person's best is another's worst. Some want power (Tundra 381 horsepower, 6-speed Auto GREAT, F150 300 horsepower, 4-speed Auto NOT SO GREAT) Some want classy looks inside and out (F150/New GM twins tie for the win IMO, Tundra definitely doesn't with its black and white interior) Some want the best interior room (Dodge wins with its MegaCab) With the Ford F150 being the last to have any substantial updates (along with the Nissan Titan, I believe?), Ford needs to catch up in the acceleration department. |
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The Tundra CrewMax trumps MegaCab rear legroom (kinda says it in the commercials). First truck with power rear windows in the extended cab ("Double Cab") models, plus fully-independent rear doors.  DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (May 18, 2007 7:59 pm) EDIT: Just got this from Edmunds.com --This makes for a lot of "biggest" and "first" claims for the Mega Cab: The largest, longest cab in its class, at 142.2 cubic feet and 111.1 inches, respectively. Largest interior cargo volume of any full-size pickup, largest second-row legroom Apparently this was before they had Tundra measurements?
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 18, 2007 8:43 pm) |
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is intimately tied up in just how quickly GM can get its act in gear. The moves GM is making right now make me think it is going to all but kick Ford's a$$ right out of North America in the next five years. The Cerberus buyout at Chrysler specifies a period of 5 years that Cerberus will invest in future product and pension liabilities at Chrysler, and after that if they haven't turned it around entirely, I am sure we will see Chrysler sliced and diced and sold to the highest bidders. That gives Ford the same five years, seems to me. I see good odds that GM will SIGNIFICANTLY infringe on Ford's already-dropping market share and sales in that time period. I do NOT see Ford turning things around by 2009 (as they have stated) with their current plan, in fact I doubt they will have much to celebrate in the next five years. |
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I have a SR5 CrewMax on my lot for $33k. Stop in for a test drive!  Was surprised when the Sierra Denali with 6.2 still couldn't run with the 5.7 Tundra. DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (May 19, 2007 5:51 pm) And what part of the Denali Tail lights were you seeing while driving the Tundra? Texas is a long drive from here. I have one dealer here that is civil. I will test drive one there. I would not want a stripped SR5. The limited would have to be real special to beat out the Denali. I do not See XM even offered. Is this an oversight or is Toyota still in the dark ages. A vehicle without XM is like a vehicle without an engine, almost. PS I have read about Toyota being XM ready. Then the dealer sticks it to you for a grand. Anything over $200 for integrated XM is a rip-off. |
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From the Philadelphia newspaper: http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20070520_Wheels_Falling_Off.html
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