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Automotive News & Views Is Ford's End Right Behind Chrysler's?
180 messages, Last post on Nov 08, 2007 at 7:04 PM
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If your W-2 says Ford Motor Company,you work for Ford. If it says Joe Blow Ford, you work for the dealership. This isn't Sesame Street. Few things in life, and nothing at Ford, is that simple. Moving on..... DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 01, 2007 11:45 am) That is like me saying I work for Land Rover. I may work with a lot of Land Rover employees as various regional reps are in the store from time to time and I send them reports on various things but I don't work for them.
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The dealer works for Ford, and I work for the dealer. So they both have an impact on my employment. The drug tests, certifcations, spiffs, etc. are all for Ford, not for my dealer. I have to pass Ford's standards and the dealer's. It's indirect, but far from a silent partner in the relationship. You can't take Ford out of the equation. It's not that simple. I had two bosses. And I liked one boss more than the other.  DrFill
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Replying to: british_rover (Oct 01, 2007 11:57 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 01, 2007 12:28 pm) Why do you want people to think you worked for a company you hate so much. Do you think it justifies your opinion? I am surprised that you don't say you also worked for Chrysler. Didn't you start out a Dodge Dealership? link title Look, the fact you could not make it in the car biz is nothing to be ashamed of, only about 30% who try it do. But please don't try to convince the average consumer here that you are an ex employee of Ford Motor Company and have this great knowledge of the behind the scenes operation. The average Greenpea or Drive Up don't know squat about how FMC runs. Hell I have been at it 15 years and I still have not figured it out. I could make it a full time job surfing the internet finding people who had a cup of coffee in the car biz and claim to be subject matter experts 
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Is Ford's End Right Behind Chrysler's? Well, seems like Chrysler hit the ground running. Ford is still bleeding it sounds like, but all the sales figures aren't going to be very good for September. The other issue of interest is how the UAW deals will shake out with these two, now that GM has worked their contract out pending vote of the union members.
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 01, 2007 5:56 pm) In fairness, Toyota, GM and Chrysler will all post a decline for September. It seems like the housing recession is definitely spilling over to the automotive market. Steve: if Chrysler is hitting the ground running, they are definitely on a treadmill. I don't see where they are going. Joel: who cares if drfill worked for Ford or not? His bashing is getting old. I simply don't read his posts. It's a shame because he does seem to be pretty knowledgeable in the automotive field. You spend too much time giving valuable advice to waste energy on this.
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Replying to: dtownfb (Oct 02, 2007 9:03 am)  I didn't care much for Nardelli's appointment, but grabbing Price about made up for it. Plus Cerberus is flush and can afford to fix stuff (when I notice car ads, they must be throwing money at publicity, and I noticed some Chrysler ads right after the sale). Mulally is lying a bit low lately and I trust that means he's working hard on cutting where he can and building up product the rest of the time. North America seems pretty saturated so it wouldn't surprise me to see international sales profits carrying a few of these companies for a few quarters or longer. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 02, 2007 10:50 am) North America is so saturated that I wouldn't be surprised if some marques join Oldsmobile and Plymouth in that big garage in the sky. Auto sales have been fairly strong these past few years, and we still have had too much capacity chasing too few customers. The slowdown in sales, triggered by the collapse in housing prices, will only make this worse. |
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