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Is Ford's End Right Behind Chrysler's?

180 messages,  Last post on Nov 08, 2007 at 7:04 PM

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Re: I'm not sure waht your point is [drfill] by volvomax
Oct 01, 2007 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Sep 29, 2007 4:58 pm)

But you don't have to work in Dearborn to be a Ford employee. People who work for a dealer are Ford Employees.\
 
Nope, you were pretty much a dealership employee.
Big difference.
Sounds to me like you didn't like working for your dealership,and that has colored your views.
Some dealers take care of their salespeople,some don't.
I know some Ford salespeople that are making a good living,even today.
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Sounds to me like by drfill
Oct 01, 2007 (9:46 am)
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   Your reading comprehension needs some work. Maybe your in Dearborn, running the ship? that may explain some things.
 
   I guess Ford is a pretty small company, with a couple of buildings in Dearborn. Who knew they were such small potatoes?
  
   Oh, and I never got a check with the Ford emblem on it either. No. Didn't happen.
 
   DrFill
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Re: Sounds to me like [drfill] by volvomax
Oct 01, 2007 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 01, 2007 9:46 am)

Regardless of how big Ford is,it ain't big enough that you ever worked for them.
You worked for a DEALER.
A DEALER is an independent company that is franchised by Ford to sell its products.
 
You are like the clerk at 7-11 saying he works for Anheuser-Busch because he sells beer.
There is nothing wrong with working for a deaelr, I've done it for 16 yrs.
But, I know enough not to claim that I work for the motor company.
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Re: Had the misfortune [joel0622] by dtownfb
Oct 01, 2007 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Sep 29, 2007 7:38 am)

Joel, just because they are investing in a larger dealership means nothing as far as Ford heading into BK. I highly doubt the Ford name will ever go away. Too much history, too many products and the name alone is just too valuable. Plus if there is any downsizing of the dealerships the bigger ones will survive.
 
I'm not in the doom and gloom forecast for Ford...yet. It's not looking too good and the hill is steep.. Like GM I think they finally "get it". They now understand you have to take care of your home market before expanding overseas. The products at home have to be as good as what you are selling overseas. Now the issue is do they have enough money to fund this turnaround? Are there products good enough to grab more market share in a declining new car market where the competition is not just Honda and Toyota but also Hyundai, GM, Mitsubishi, Nissan, etc.? Can they make a profit on a car (sounds dumb but they haven't demonstrated that since the 1990's Taurus yet)? Can they build a fuel efficient car that doesn't rely on 40% sales to fleet and rental?
 
It should be fun. The good part about it is the consumer benefits from improved products.
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Re: Sounds to me like [volvomax] by drfill
Oct 01, 2007 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 01, 2007 10:10 am)

    I didn't work for AutoNation.
  
    Ford was on my checks. Ford was in the dealer's name. They are one and the same.
I had to take Certification from Ford to work there! Corporate drug testing policy. I represent Ford and the dealer! I have two bosses! What part of that don't you understand? The dealer is not independent of Ford. Everything they do has to be approved by Corporate! This is easy stuff!
 
   This was not 1099 work. Come on. Wake up!
 
   DrFill
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Re: Sounds to me like [drfill] by volvomax
Oct 01, 2007 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 01, 2007 10:30 am)

If your W-2 says Ford Motor Company,you work for Ford.
If it says Joe Blow Ford, you work for the dealership.
 
Still,if your delusions of grandeur require that you work for Ford, I won't argue with you any further.
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Reply by drfill
Oct 01, 2007 (11:45 am)
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If your W-2 says Ford Motor Company,you work for Ford.
If it says Joe Blow Ford, you work for the dealership.

 
   This isn't Sesame Street. Few things in life, and nothing at Ford, is that simple.
  
   Moving on.....
 
   DrFill
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Re: Reply [drfill] by british_rover
Oct 01, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 01, 2007 11:45 am)

Unless you worked for one of the handful of Ford Owned corporate stores, Manhattan is the only one I can think of off the top of my head, then you didn't work for Ford.
 
That is like me saying I work for Land Rover. I may work with a lot of Land Rover employees as various regional reps are in the store from time to time and I send them reports on various things but I don't work for them.
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You're missing my point by drfill
Oct 01, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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   The dealer works for Ford, and I work for the dealer. So they both have an impact on my employment.
 
   The drug tests, certifcations, spiffs, etc. are all for Ford, not for my dealer. I have to pass Ford's standards and the dealer's. It's indirect, but far from a silent partner in the relationship. You can't take Ford out of the equation. It's not that simple.
 
   I had two bosses. And I liked one boss more than the other.
 
   DrFill
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Re: Reply [british_rover] by volvomax
Oct 01, 2007 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Oct 01, 2007 11:57 am)

Oh, let him dream.

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