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Automotive News & Views Is Ford's End Right Behind Chrysler's?
180 messages, Last post on Nov 08, 2007 at 7:04 PM
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Prius is no sedan, so I'm not getting your point.  Ford Focus was busy being recalled  . DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (Jul 13, 2007 12:03 pm) Seems to me that a good indicator of the health of the Mustang might be the proportion of Mustang sales to those of more practical vehicles. The first step would be looking at how it stacks up internally at Ford. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 11, 2007 7:12 pm) UAW Ford and the UAW are set to start talk july 20th. should be very interesting. What happens then will probably have more of an effect on fords future than anything else. If they get rolled again, wouldn't be surprised if they just let the company go into bankruptcy in order finnaly break the UAW, and get to dump their pension obligations.
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Replying to: jd10013 (Jul 13, 2007 4:39 pm)
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Replying to: grbeck (Jul 15, 2007 2:28 pm)
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Replying to: jd10013 (Jul 16, 2007 6:56 am) The Fords have a different class of stock than mere mortal shareholders, but I think they could still be at risk. |
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| Just what did you do for Ford when you worked for them? I sure hope it was not Consumer Relations or Brand Recognition. Did they fire you or something? Usually the only people I see that down talk a company so bad is some one who was let go. | |
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Of working "On the floor" for almost 2 years, also as an Internet Sales Manager. This was right after GM started the 0% campaign, which set this "Fire Sale" mentality into motion, as Ford couldn't wait to try to top them. So the car became the afterthought, and how much will the dealer give away in profit became the point of the sale. Plus the Exploder/Tombstone Tire controversy always helped you hold "gross".  Ford has been rocketing into the crapper ever since my departure, so, if they did fire me, it would've been the umpteenth poor decision they've made over the last decade. They need me back, just to slow the bleeding! Not that I'd go, but a little groveling never hurt anybody.  DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (Sep 28, 2007 2:14 pm) The only dealers who did not do well during the 0% and Family Plan sales events were those who handled them improperly. We had record months during each event and our profits were strong. It was just a matter of playing the hand dealt to you and concentrating on the departments it strengthened, F&I and UC. It also allowed us to have record used car months the months following the events because of all the trades we took in. It looks to me as though you parted company with a dealer under less then favorable terms and are on a vendetta to bash FMC, allot of your info is less then accurate i.e, the 6 cyl engine, the Mustang going away, F-Series trucks loosing leadership, etc. As I have told other folks here at Edmonds, if Ford was riding the train to BK I doubt seriously my DP would be spending $15,000,000 right now in order to build one of the largest Ford Dealerships in our state. He would probably stay at our current location which has been a Ford Dealer for over 60 years and ride out this forthcoming Doom and Gloom forcast you have predicted. I will just you to my "I told you so" list when we become one of the most succesfull auto makers in the world again.
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But you don't have to work in Dearborn to be a Ford employee. People who work for a dealer are Ford Employees.\ The dealers AWLAYS make a killing, through used cars, trades, and financing. The only one's who really don't get paid are the salesmen. They are used as dispensable pawns in the game. The dealer was not the problem. As a matter of fact, the Floor Manager was one of the best people I've ever worked with, in or outside of the business. And he practically begged me to stay, which is rare for a rather average salesman (He was an ex-pro football player, and we'd talk football, ad nausium).  I know what the problem was, and it wasn't the dealer. Anyone who's seen Ford's track record over the last decade doesn't need a super-computer to figure that out.  DrFill
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