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2007 BMW X5 V6 vs 2008 V6 Cayenne

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Re: 2007 BMW X5 V6 vs. 2008 V6 Cayenne [oniac] by skobola
Apr 08, 2007 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: oniac (Apr 07, 2007 11:22 pm)

The specs on the paper certainly favored the Cayenne, but my friend's opinion was that the Bimmer was more agile. I know by sitting in the rear seat in both of them that Cayenne certainly made more noise and felt like really trying to be peppy, while Bimmer was much quieter and thus made me believe what was my friend saying, that is, that it was more agile and peppy without as much trying as the Cayenne. And as I said, the verdict to go for the Bimmer was even provided that both of us liked the Cayenne better in regard of the exterior and interior looks.
I have to admit that we both already have had Bimmer sedans, so maybe we were going for the SUV, oops, SAV of the same brand automatically. As I said, I was certainly enjoying more the Bimmer as a passenger, and it felt more peppy to me... But I have not test driven neither, as I would never go for a SUV... Which means that you can take my evaluation only as an additional view of the opposite kind!
If I would be you, I would choose exactly the same route, and drive both of these in a same manner, and then if you will like one over the other, I guess, that would be it...
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skobola by oniac
Apr 09, 2007 (6:28 pm)
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Thanks for your input. I test drove these SUV's twice already. The Cayenne is a bit noisier bec I think it's plainly a Porsche. I did the 2nd look & drive of both on Saturday. As soon as you turn on the ignition of the Cayenne you already hear that exhaust note typical of a Porsche even at idle while the Bimmer is quiet. You accelerate & the Bimmer is still quiet, while the POrsche has that sweet tone typical of it's brand. I'm leaning towards the X5 bec. of things like the rear seats backrest recline & the Cayenne is fixed & too straight. That's important for me bec. kids tend to sleep on long drives & the Cayenne will be so uncomfortable. The handling & the fun to drive though is Porsche all the way. The Bimmers suspension is tight but kinda numb compared to the Cayenne.
 
The only thing delaying me now is the BMW dealer here don't have the color that I want, there's none in their pipeline so I need to order it. The BMW dealer an hour away have 3 Grays but problem is if I buy it there the BMW dealership here won't give me a loaner if I take it there for a repair or for maintenance. Why can't all lux marques be like Lexus ??
 
Other thing is the reliability of these 2 SUV's. Which will be more reliable. JD Powers rate Porsche higher than BMW. I don't know. I may end up with whoever gives me a bigger discount since they're equally great.
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Re: skobola [oniac] by skobola
Apr 11, 2007 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: oniac (Apr 09, 2007 6:28 pm)

The BMW dealers make me sick with they little petty things that they do to stick it to us. I believe that BMW NA should regulate that, however, they are pretty in line with the dealers' behavior... but that would be another topic altogether! I certainly did not have the same criteria as you (back seat), and for me BMW won as a better SUV, regardless of me actually liking the looks of Porsche better. Actually, the bad on the Porsche's end was that I heard that its reliability and evaluations are among worst of all luxury SUVs. Yet, that would not prevent me to go for it because the dealership in which would I buy it offers a lot of incentives servicing-wise and loaners if I would buy it over there.
Please, do not get guided by the discounts - it is important that you get a SUV that you like! In other words, a better discount will not make it a better SUV, especially if you would rather have the other one, I think.
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skobola by oniac
Apr 11, 2007 (10:48 pm)
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I have to correct you on the Porsche as having the worse reliability & evaluations. It is all of the Land Rovers from the LR3 to both Range Rover & Sport versions that has the poorest relability.
 
My Uncle is a consultant at Porsche. In March the company launched the Cayenne in Cabo San Lucas. They invited Porsche techs & sales people nationwide to the launch. The Porsche performed the best in handling, braking, etc. The X5 was rated 2nd in handling to the Porsche, the ML rated the most responsive (power) & the Range rover was the worse. These comments were not only made by my Uncle but by the reps at the 2 Porsche dealers here. They had a test where you'd accelerate hard & slam on the brakes hard & that's where the Range Rover sucked. This is not a one time test/demo. Almost everyone had a chance to either drive or ride on all the cars on the test. The Q7 was there too but no one even bothered or talked about it. All the SUV's tested were the V8 versions. By the way we also know the Land Rovers reliability bec not even one car magazine has failed to mention this brands terrible reliability. There's a car dealer here that has a BMW, Porsche, LR, Volvo dealerships. One thing that the Porsche rep & BMW rep agreed on is that the RR Sport is a great looking SUV & one of the most capable off roader, but it's very unreliable.
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Re: skobola [oniac] by ms09
Apr 12, 2007 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: oniac (Apr 11, 2007 10:48 pm)

Which is the better all round suv the cayenne or the x5.???
 
And have u decided yet (oniac) what car to choose???
 
the X5 is it 6 speed transmiss or 7??
 
I have been a cayenne fan since a long long time...
 
But i think now i am starting to like the new x5 more regardless of the trouble reviews...
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Re: skobola [ms09] by teamyonex
Apr 13, 2007 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: ms09 (Apr 12, 2007 10:45 am)

I looked at both closely (back in '06) and went with the Cayenne. It seemed to have more serious SUV intentions. Porsche didn't leave off-roading out of the equation. If you're leaning toward the X5, better check out the new Acura MDX, which was favored by the folks at Roundel, BMWs car club magazine.
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Re: skobola [teamyonex] by ms09
Apr 13, 2007 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: teamyonex (Apr 13, 2007 7:20 am)

But have u looked at the new x5??? i never liked the old x5 but now i really like the new 1.
 
Well the cayenne i always liked it, but cayenne is kind of l
like a sports car, sports car engine sound..
 
and x5 is i what i think but not sure a bit more smooth ride
 
How long does bmw bring next generation cars 7 years???
 
i think porsche r 4years rite????
 
Whenever i see people driving their cayenne it looks more like an expensive car like a muscle car i think that cayenne gives u more confidence while driving how does it feel while driving agt high speed stable?????.And does any1 know how does the new x5 feel while driving in high speeds?.
 
x5 i really dont know what to say abt it doesn't its not as exciting as a cayenne i think well thats just m opinion...but i think im liking the x5 more or the cayenne gettin confused!!!!!
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Re: to 11 by oniac by skobola
Apr 13, 2007 (8:20 pm)
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Replying to: oniac (Apr 11, 2007 10:48 pm)

Well, I did not say that Porsche is the worst, but among worst, and I said that was what I heard. And this was stated for reliability, not the performance and handling. Considering the performance and handling, I was present at the introduction of the old X5 on the track, which was driven by a professional driver to show that it was almost impossible to upset balance-wise, while the others were pretty easy to be upset. This was done by having a quick lane change at about 50 mph, and every other SUV except X5 was dangerously trying to topple (i.e., would go on driving only on 2 wheels). At that time, there was no Cayenne, so such a comparison was not possible; as much as I can remember, I believe the other 2 SUVs were Lexus 420 (or whatever number they have) and Benz ML 320. I would be pretty willing to accept that Cayenne's handling is very good as well.
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skobola by oniac
Apr 13, 2007 (10:34 pm)
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The CAyenne handles better than the X5. That's one thing that anyone who'll test these 2 will agree on. The BMW's are given the title of the "ultimate driving machine" & we all agree with that. Most or all of their cars will beat their counterparts from compact to fullsize sedans to SUV's in the handling dept., but Porsches are on a level above the BMW's, MB's, etc. Porsches are compared to Ferraris, Lambos, etc. Read Edmunds review on the previous Cayenne Turbos handling were they commented that the Cayenne's handling #'s even exceeded the previous M3's #'s. That's very impressive condisering the M3's one of BMW's best. Of course the Cayenne Turbo had that adaptive suspension on it but even if it didn't it'll still be probably as good as a Bimmer w/ a sport package.. AS they say "There's no Substitute" for a Porsche.. Tomorrow will probably be the day...Thanks for your input...
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Re: skobola [oniac] by ms09
Apr 14, 2007 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: oniac (Apr 13, 2007 10:34 pm)

So (oniac) ur going to choose 1 today???(skobola) What car do u own???
 
HOPE SOME1 WILL REPLY MY MESSAGE NO.14....

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