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Honda CR-V Rear Differential Problem?

392 messages,  Last post on Nov 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM

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Re: oil additive [saabgirl] by blueiedgod
Oct 22, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: saabgirl (Oct 21, 2009 2:48 pm)

Meant to ask a Q in my previous post --
  
Does anyone use BG oil additive?
  
The dealer I bought the car from recommends this additive, saying since the car isn't used every day, it could be helpful at start up, especially in the winter.
  
The dealer closest to me said Honda doesn't recommend any additive, winter or not, used daily or not.
  
I'm impressed with someone who stands to make a buck, but will tell the customer a product might not hurt but isn't needed. Any other .02?

 
The seocnd dealer is right. the OWNERs MANUAL specifically states not to use additives. Bring the OWNER's MANUAL to the first dealer, and make them eat it.
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Re: 2007 Honda AWD CRV Differential Problems [motoguy128] by sabfish
Oct 29, 2009 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: motoguy128 (Aug 18, 2009 12:58 pm)

I have been through this 3 times with my 2005 CRV. There is a specific service bulletin from Honda addressing this problem. Even after a change with new Honda fluid this problem can develop. The service bulletin provides for a detailed procedure to "burnish the disks in the differential. My Honda dealer is aware of this bulletin and has changed the fluid without charge. Each time the problem was solved for about 12,000 miles. Make sure you go to the dealer for this problem. Mention that you are aware that there is a service bulletin on the problem with a specific procedure.
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Honda Service Bulletin Link by sabfish
Oct 29, 2009 (7:39 am)
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I previously left a post on the TSB for the rear differential problem. Here is a link to the bulletin itself which describes the procedure that must be followed before changing the fluid.
 
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A07-024.PDF
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Diff. prob. by tkay2
Oct 30, 2009 (4:00 am)
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What I do now is every time I take my 07 in for service I tell them about the noise I hear when turning. They change the differential fluid free. Wonder if Honda has done anything with this problem on 2010. If you think you should change differential fluid every 20;K get a different make. As far as road noise, I put a set of Michelin latitude tour on the 07 (WOW what a difference) I have a subaru 2009 forester with 35000K have not changed fluid yet. I take my subaru in every 4000 miles or so to take advantage of the 3 year 36000 free scheduled maintenance I negotiated when purchasing the vehicle. For me the choice is the forrester..The only drawback is the price they charge for maintenance.. My free is running out!!!
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Re: Diff. prob. [tkay2] by blueiedgod
Oct 30, 2009 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: tkay2 (Oct 30, 2009 4:00 am)

What I do now is every time I take my 07 in for service I tell them about the noise I hear when turning. They change the differential fluid free. Wonder if Honda has done anything with this problem on 2010. If you think you should change differential fluid every 20;K get a different make. As far as road noise, I put a set of Michelin latitude tour on the 07 (WOW what a difference) I have a subaru 2009 forester with 35000K have not changed fluid yet. I take my subaru in every 4000 miles or so to take advantage of the 3 year 36000 free scheduled maintenance I negotiated when purchasing the vehicle. For me the choice is the forrester..The only drawback is the price they charge for maintenance.. My free is running out!!!
 
I believe the scheduled differential fluid interval for 2007 an dup CR-V is 15,000 miles. Even if the poster has to change it every 20,000 miles, he/she is getting more out of the fluid than intended.
 
Honda's Real-Time AWD is different from Subaru's, and comparing the fluid intervals on the Subaru (which is just a differential, not an AWD integral part) with CR-V, is like complaining that apples taste like oranges, when they are indeed oranges.
 
It would be more benefitial to the owners of the respective vehicles to understand what each system is, how it works, and what the differences are before making categorical statements and comparing the two. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: 2001 CRV Rear Differential Problem? [spanky] by tkay2
Nov 02, 2009 (2:45 am)
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Replying to: spanky (Feb 13, 2009 6:01 pm)

Spanky, Wonder if Honda has changed diff. fluid on the 09 or 10 CRV.. or do they have to wait for a model makeover???
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Re: Diff. prob. [blueiedgod] by tkay2
Nov 02, 2009 (2:57 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Oct 30, 2009 9:11 am)

So what you are saying is Honda 4WD and Subaru all wheel drive is different. To me they are both 4 wheel drive and do well in snow etc. have never heard of another vehicle that requires 15K intervals to change Diff.Fluid. I am thinking of a a 09 or 10 CRV. and wondering if they have changed or in my view fixed this problem,And also they might try to alleviate some of the road noise!
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Re: Diff. prob. [tkay2] by blueiedgod
Nov 02, 2009 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: tkay2 (Nov 02, 2009 2:57 am)

So what you are saying is Honda 4WD and Subaru all wheel drive is different. To me they are both 4 wheel drive and do well in snow etc. have never heard of another vehicle that requires 15K intervals to change Diff.Fluid. I am thinking of a a 09 or 10 CRV. and wondering if they have changed or in my view fixed this problem,And also they might try to alleviate some of the road noise!
 
Honda's AWD system is integrated in the rear differential, while Subaru's AWD system is in the central differential.
 
Honda uses wet clutches and two pumps to create the pressure to activate the rear wheels. When both front and rear wheels are turning at the same speed, the pressure between the pumps is neutral. Once either of the wheels are turning faster, it creates pressure differential between the pumps and activates the clutch pack.
 
The benefit is the lighter weight, and lower rolling resitance, which results in higher fuel efficiency.
 
The system is proven bullet proof with regular maintenance. It was originally installed on the mid-80's Civic Wagon 4WD vehicles, and has been continually improved, but essentially is a dual pump system.
 
While Subaru's system is always on. It is simpler, but takes a hit in the fuel economy department.
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Re: Honda Service Bulletin Link [sabfish] by tony108
Nov 13, 2009 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: sabfish (Oct 29, 2009 7:39 am)

Hello sabfish,
 
thanks for the info on this tsb for the 07 crv. my aunt has a noise coming from the rear diff and when she was at the dealer, they were trying to charge her for the fluid change and inspection fee. Good thing I found this thread and mentioned to the service advisor about the tsb.... well, let's just say that they suddenly remembered that a tsb exists for this noise.
 
thanks,
tony

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