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Honda CR-V Rear Differential Problem?

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Re: 2007 Honda AWD CRV Differential Problems [steve_] by isellhondas
Jun 26, 2009 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 24, 2009 10:22 am)

Some people are adverse to spending one more nickle on maintenance than they have to. Those maximum numbers are for those kind of people. Other people like to take better care of their cars than that.
 
So, how much longer will an engine last that has had 3-4000 mile oil changes vs. one that only gets an oil change every 7500 miles?
 
I don't really know. I do know they guys in our shop change the oil in their own cars pretty often.
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Re: 2007 Honda AWD CR-V Differential Problems [isellhondas] by steve_ HOST
Jun 26, 2009 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 26, 2009 6:12 am)

The Europeans have been on 10k plus oil change intervals for lots longer than the US and I can't believe their engineering and oil standards are that much better than ours, or that they have worse driving conditions. My van has 132k on it with 7,500+ mile intervals on the oil, and one drain and fill on the transmission, and I think it's more likely to die from non-oil or transmission fluid related causes.
 
The data I've read over the years (the infamous CR taxi study and all the fleet reports) doesn't show that more frequent fluid changes increases the life of the drivetrain for most people.
 
If Honda's engineers thought that the pumpkin needed to be lubed every 30k, I think they would have put that in the owner's manual.
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Re: 2007 Honda AWD CR-V Differential Problems [steve_] by isellhondas
Jun 28, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 26, 2009 1:23 pm)

If Honda's engineers thought that the pumpin needed to be lubed every 30K I think they would have put that in their owner's manual"
 
Yep but different people drive their cars under different condtions. If I still lived in So. Calif, it is doubtful that our CRV would ever engage 4WD. In that case the fluid maight last the life of the car.
 
In a snowy climate or under hard use, 90,000 might be pushing it.
 
It snows here sometimes so I changed mind at 30K. Not expensive to do and no big deal!
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Re: 2007 Honda AWD CR-V Differential Problems [steve_] by blueiedgod
Jul 07, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 26, 2009 1:23 pm)

If Honda's engineers thought that the pumpkin needed to be lubed every 30k, I think they would have put that in the owner's manual.
 
Apparantely, the maintenance minder system does require differential change at around 15,000 miles now, and people are complaining about it being too often.
 
You can't win.
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Looking to purchase 2005 CRV EX, 29K miles by scrapperanne
Jul 12, 2009 (8:37 am)
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We have the opportunity to purchase a 2005 CRV EX with only 29K miles on it at a very good price. The ownership record is as good as one could ask for (one owner, purchased/serviced regularly and traded in for the newest same model all at the same dealership from which we're looking to purchase). I had seen the Consumer Reports ding on the '05/'06 and began investigations which led me to this thread. :-}
 
I've read each and every post to date. I'm naturally inclined to lean toward the group that views this as a maintenance issue realizing we need to change the differential fluid more often than the manual may state. My husband is a most competent DIYer. Is the fluid change/clutch burnishing something he should be able to contend with himself? My biggest concern there is his time. It is valuable to us and we'd need to decide, based on time required, whether it's worth it to take it in to the dealership to do.
 
Past that, I guess I'm just looking for a bit more peace of mind since I have just read through all the posts (good and the bad). This car will be for our teen driver (who has learned to drive on our Tundra and Sienna so the size of this vehicle is not an issue). We shopped primarily for VSC and our journey has led us to this car which is being "certified" (7 yr/100,000mi power train warranty) in the Honda shop Monday.
 
We're to test drive it Tuesday am after the certification process and detailing are complete. Meanwhile, my sister in law test drove it yesterday. (The dealership is out of town from us but where she lives). She noted an intermittent noise that seemed to emit from the front left tire at around 40 mph but nothing like what has been described in this thread that others have experienced with their rear differential.
 
The salesman informed me that, due to the already terrific price on the vehicle, if it needs new tires (he also heard the noise and suspects possible steel belt breakage in the tire) we would need to fund them. We're fine with that (unless, of course, the problem is traced to the rear differential issue). I'll be calling them first thing tomorrow morning to share with them what I've learned and to make sure that that aspect (RD) of this car is thoroughly evaluated. Is there anything in particular you'd recommend I say?
 
Past that, with reason, please share your thoughts on the reliability/serviceability of this particular car for our teen driver. (I'm sure there will be a few in this thread who would respond with something to the effect "No way, Jose!" because of your individual issues with your car). I'm looking for a more general consensus based on the history of the car over all rather than an isolated incident here or there.
 
We aim to purchase something for her that will see her through college and would buy new, if necessary, to have a car with the VSC. Meanwhile, we found this one and it has look really good to us thus far, primarily because of the ownership record and the low mileage.
 
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Looking to purchase 2005 CRV EX, 29K miles [scrapperanne] by scrapperanne
Jul 12, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: scrapperanne (Jul 12, 2009 8:37 am)

I meant to ask, too - we live in southeastern United States. How often would you recommend we change the differential fluid if there are no symptoms (groaning/moaning with turns, etc) of trouble?
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Re: Looking to purchase 2005 CRV EX, 29K miles [scrapperanne] by Francisder
Jul 12, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: scrapperanne (Jul 12, 2009 8:55 am)

Scrapperanne, I am an owner of a 2006. My only problem with it has been this rear differential problem. The car has been fine otherwise.
 
If you read the technical bulletin, you will see that the car has to be lifted on a lift and left to run for 10 minutes before the fluid is changed again. I don't know how much equipment your husband has, but this is (in my book) a bit beyond a DIY job.
 
Francis
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Re: Looking to purchase 2005 CRV EX, 29K miles [Francisder] by scrapperanne
Jul 12, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: Francisder (Jul 12, 2009 9:13 am)

Thanks for the response. Would you buy your car if you had it to do over again? We are long time Honda/Toyota drivers (more than two decades of ownership now) and believe in the relative quality of their products. Have the pros outweighed this con for you in your mind regarding your vehicle?
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Re: Looking to purchase 2005 CRV EX, 29K miles [scrapperanne] by 2001hondacrv
Jul 12, 2009 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: scrapperanne (Jul 12, 2009 8:55 am)

I have a 2001 CRV which I purchased in 2003 with 27,000 miles. I still have my CRV as my only vehicle and it now is getting ready to turn over 80,000 miles. If you are able to get a 2005 with only 29,000 miles on it at a great price, I'd go for it. This will be a fantastic car for your son.
 
My dealer told me that the rear diff needs to be changed approximately every 15K miles. Now, given that I've put 50,000 miles on my car in the last 6 years, I don't drive it all that much. I've had my rear diff changed twice and it's due again. I live in Ohio, it runs me about $120 to have done and I wait for it.
 
I've done normal maintenance on my car over the last six years, timing belt change, new clutch, oil changes, etc. and this CRV is absolutely the best car I've had to date hands down (I've had Toyotas and other Hondas as well). I think especially for a teen, this will be a great vehicle in good weather and bad - I have a 16 yo son who is learning to drive now, although isn't able to drive my 5 speed yet, but I wouldn't hesitate to get him the same thing.
 
Good luck with the test drive - I would ask the dealer to make sure the rear diff is changed before you do take it - when I first bought mine (out of state), they told me it was the brakes, which I had replaced at that time. The rear diff is an easy fix.
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Re: Looking to purchase 2005 CRV EX, 29K miles [2001hondacrv] by scrapperanne
Jul 12, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: 2001hondacrv (Jul 12, 2009 9:43 am)

Thanks for taking the time to respond. Our teen driver (a daughter, actually) turns 17 this November. She's not driving actively just yet, either, but when this opportunity presented itself, we couldn't look the other way. I figure if she waits another year to drive, I can at least use this vehicle to escort her to her various and sundry activities and save the mileage on my Sienna which is a 2005 and has $86,000K on it!

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