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Long time Honda owner
by dtstof
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Jun 12, 2009 (4:52 am)
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I have a 2007 CRV, and have owned 2 Accords over the years. I live in SOCAL and don't need AWD, even though my last car was an Audi Quattro and ran flawless without any yearly differential oil changes or problems. If I needed an AWD vehicle, I would have not chosen the CRV. I am really surprised that Honda has not changed the design. Must be economics...
Poor excuse.
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Re: differentiating differentials [mickd]
by tedtcb
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Jun 12, 2009 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: mickd (Jun 12, 2009 3:46 am)
Mickd writes: Just regular 87 octane.
Do you notice an increase in acceleration/MPG when /or of you use Plus or Premium..I absolutely do, but then again it could all be psychological or just plain psycho 
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Re: Long time Honda owner [dtstof]
by blueiedgod
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Jun 12, 2009 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: dtstof (Jun 12, 2009 4:52 am)
I have a 2007 CRV, and have owned 2 Accords over the years. I live in SOCAL and don't need AWD, even though my last car was an Audi Quattro and ran flawless without any yearly differential oil changes or problems. If I needed an AWD vehicle, I would have not chosen the CRV. I am really surprised that Honda has not changed the design. Must be economics...
Sounds like someone has no clue what the difference is between "quattro" and "Real Time 4WD"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quattro_(four_wheel_drive_system)
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/844/releases/3653
Ignorance is truly bliss...
Two completely different system using different approaches and different technologies. Very similar to someone complaining that apples taste like oranges, while in reality one is eating an orange, but thinks it is an apple. 
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Re: Long time Honda owner [blueiedgod]
by dtstof
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Jun 12, 2009 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 12, 2009 11:51 am)
Fortunately I do know the difference. Thank you for the information. Bottom line here is : "Real Time™ 4WD is also low maintenance. The Maintenance Minder system will indicate that the dual pump fluid should be changed at about 60,000 miles. " From the posts on this board, Honda has failed,
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Re: Long time Honda owner [dtstof]
by isellhondas
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Jun 15, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: dtstof (Jun 12, 2009 4:27 pm)
This differential "problem" has been blown way out of proportion as is common on these boards.
The guys in our shop do suggest 30,000 mile rear diff oil changes instead of the 60K in the manuals. Not expensive to do.
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Re: Long time Honda owner [isellhondas]
by courtney89
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Jun 15, 2009 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 15, 2009 10:04 am)
I have 'spoken' out on this site several times about this issue. Pay attention to your car, listen to your car. Without being on this thread, I heard the noise, took it to the dealer and got it fixed. I've had 6 Honda's, two of those being CRV's. At one pointed I traded in a year old mini van for a civic - I missed my Honda. I'm sorry to say I haven't treated them with the utmost care, but have used the adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it. My civic after 10 years and little maintenance - one break job and one muffller, sold for in 2 days for an amazingly high resale value. That's when I bought my first CRV. I agree this has been blown out of proportion, Judylink will respond to this no doubt, but I have decided I am finished listening to this and won't be sent any more notations from this thread - Judy, I'm glad you weren't hurt in your wreck, hope your latest car is doing well and that the maintenance doesn't need anything other than a bell or whistle that goes off when your car needs something.
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Re: Long time Honda owner [courtney89]
by tedtcb
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Jun 15, 2009 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: courtney89 (Jun 15, 2009 10:23 am)
Not to beat a dead horse and to stay out of typical BBS flame zones, the rear diff problem wouldn't be a problem if Honda had addressed the issue from the get go.
In reality, it isn't the Dual Pump fluid or the rear diff design, they are contributing factors obviously, the real problem (as always) is the misinformation, disinformation and general angst of “Not knowing”…all products of Honda Corporate policy.
Yes, Judy had a catastrophic failure, but that’s way the exception.
Would I buy another CRV….No, I don’t like the seats, I find it unconscionable that Honda did not include intermittent (variable) wipers on the Leather SE O6 version as well as other nitpicks but none of the reasons are mechanical in nature.
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Re: Long time Honda owner [isellhondas]
by yarmie
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Jun 15, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 15, 2009 10:04 am)
My '05 Honda CRV manual "suggests" a 90,000 rear diff. oil change, and it cost me $80.00 and that was for one oil change not two that is recommended, why so expensive? I can get my engine oil changed for $17.99. And, why couldn't Honda even have the curtesy to inform us that there is a problem. Maybe you are, but I'm not used to having my oil changed front and back. I feel deceived by Honda, and my local dealership, Piazza Honda in Reading PA, told me it was a misprint in the manual because they were afraid I was going to ask for it free.
Maybe this is all overblown, but on principal, I'm angry about it. I don't like being deceived, lied to and treated like I'm stupid!
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Re: Long time Honda owner [yarmie]
by isellhondas
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Jun 15, 2009 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: yarmie (Jun 15, 2009 11:16 am)
How do you get an oil change for 17.99?
Sopme people go the 90,000 miles without changing the rear diff oil and have no problems. I listen to the guys in our shop and I change mine every 30K and have had no problems like the majority of people.
Big difference between changing engine oil and diff fluid!
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Re: differentiating differentials [tedtcb]
by mickd
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Jun 15, 2009 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: tedtcb (Jun 12, 2009 9:17 am)
The only time I've used a midgrade gas was in Minnesota. Their midgrade has a higher Ethanol content and was cheaper than the regular gas but I didn't see any difference in MPG or acceleration. Just go back from a 300 mile trip from PA to Md over the mountains and the best MPG I could get was 28.5. Still lots of tread on those new tires!
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