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Honda CR-V Rear Differential Problem?

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Re: differentiating differentials [terryp1] by blueiedgod
Jun 03, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: terryp1 (Jun 02, 2009 10:02 am)

You apparently believe that Honda's staff isn't smart enough or educated enough to publish an owner's manual that reflects the nature of the vehicle, including one with a Honda RT4WD differential.
If it happens that they've produced a differential that needs its oil changed and its clutch plates burnished every 7,000 miles or so, they screwed up. (And I expect they know it.) They seem to believe the engine needs oil changes every 10,000 miles. And of course a differential would be expected to go much longer between changes, even one named R2-D2 or whatever.

 
Two words: Marketing and Accountants.
 
When you have engineers design a very good product and then hand it off to Marketing and Accountants, they are bound to mess it up.
 
I have Owner's manuals for the 83 Magna and 88 Prelude, and Honda sent sticky pages to paste over the ones in the book. But, with the addition of Lawyers to the corporate staff, they won't do it, because it would be equivalent to admission of guilt.
 
So, now it is 3 words; Marketing, Accountants, and Lawyers.
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Re: differentiating differentials [blueiedgod] by steve_ HOST
Jun 03, 2009 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 03, 2009 8:33 am)

The times I've seen sticky pages in owner's manuals, it was part of a TSB to correct errors or omissions. Quick example for an '04 CR-V (first item).
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Re: differentiating differentials [blueiedgod] by judylink
Jun 03, 2009 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 20, 2009 12:26 pm)

Often times there are metal shavings found in the oil. Is the oil causing the diff to break down or is the diff contaminating the oil? That screws up your nifty equation.
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Re: differentiating differentials [judylink] by blueiedgod
Jun 04, 2009 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: judylink (Jun 03, 2009 2:11 pm)

Often times there are metal shavings found in the oil. Is the oil causing the diff to break down or is the diff contaminating the oil? That screws up your nifty equation.
 
Diff breaksdown the oil with use. Anyone living where they activate AWD should be changing fluid about once a year.
 
Metal shavings would indicate that someone waited too long to change fluid, and ignored the early warning signs.
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Re: differentiating differentials [blueiedgod] by tedtcb
Jun 04, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 04, 2009 8:32 am)

Let’s see, I have 64K on my 06 and last month I had my Diff clutch burnished and “Dual II Pumped” for the third time. The first time by Honda for free and the two other times by my trusty mechanic who follows the TSB to the letter.
I suppose if my CR-V was my first Honda I might be miffed about this rear diff issue, but since it’s my 15th or so since 1977, I’m as big a fan as ever…And will remain so.
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Re: differentiating differentials [tedtcb] by blueiedgod
Jun 09, 2009 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: tedtcb (Jun 04, 2009 2:09 pm)

Let’s see, I have 64K on my 06 and last month I had my Diff clutch burnished and “Dual II Pumped” for the third time. The first time by Honda for free and the two other times by my trusty mechanic who follows the TSB to the letter.
I suppose if my CR-V was my first Honda I might be miffed about this rear diff issue, but since it’s my 15th or so since 1977, I’m as big a fan as ever…And will remain so.

 
Sounds about right, change the fluid once a year and the car is happy.
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Re: differentiating differentials [blueiedgod] by tedtcb
Jun 09, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 09, 2009 8:57 am)

Just changed front breaks/rotors 64K
Drove from the Catskills to Burlington Vt last Sat got close to 29 mph on the way up(Just me and my wife) and with one extra person on the way back (80mph) for 235 Mi about 24 MPH
The 29 was the best I ever got.
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Re: differentiating differentials [tedtcb] by jpettibone
Jun 10, 2009 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: tedtcb (Jun 09, 2009 4:28 pm)

So, if you add the rear differential to the A/C problem, plus the transmission sensors that people have had problems with, is this still a reilable car? Or, at the very least, has it been below Honda's high level of quality?
 
Honestly, next to a Neon that I was a fool to buy, the cr-v has been the least reliable car I've owned.
 
Also, nice to see blueiedgod over here trumpeting reliability in the face of evidence again. He really gets around these message boards.
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Re: differentiating differentials [jpettibone] by blueiedgod
Jun 11, 2009 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: jpettibone (Jun 10, 2009 12:55 pm)

Also, nice to see blueiedgod over here trumpeting reliability in the face of evidence again. He really gets around these message boards.
 
I know, it is just too much to ask people to maintain their vehicles as they are supposed to. How dare a manufacturer require people change their fluids and oils on schedule.
 
I agree, once you buy a vehicle, it should run a million miles without the owner spending a penny or taking it into the shop, and preferrably all done on the same tank of fuel....
 
alas, the reality bites....
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2009 diff probs? by vincel1
Jun 11, 2009 (9:01 am)
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Hi I'm new to the forums, I usually don't join but just browse the useful info. But I'm considering a 2009 CRV AWD auto. Has there been any differential problems with the later model CRVs? The service bulletin addresses the 02 - 07 model years.
Thanks, vincel

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