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Honda CR-V Rear Differential Problem?

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RE terryp1 by tedtcb
Apr 14, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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terryp1 writes: And there's another twist
 
That is good writing re the Lemon Law
 
I’m thrilled for you as far as winning in VA over the torque steer issue.
Even though my 06 CRV had the rear diff issue at 25K (I have 60 k now and I’ve changed the rear diff twice, I see too many Vs of all generations on the road to think the problem is systemic but of course who knows if they’re AWD.
As a Honda owner since 1977, I am surprised at this issue but so far no one’s been able to pin this as a recall kind of “Design Flaw Issue”
Hunt around the rear diff posts and look for TSB regarding this, I would but I’m outta here for a while
Later
(here it is http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A07-024.PDF
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Re: RE terryp1 [tedtcb] by terryp1
Apr 14, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: tedtcb (Apr 14, 2009 2:40 pm)

Thanks.
I have the TSB. But it calls only for a fluid change and clutch burnishing. If I now need another such fluid change after just 6,000 or 7,000 miles since the first one, with the expensive expectation of more of the same until the car and I do part, then I need a new and improved differential. That is my belief. And that will be my stance with Honda and the dealer.
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Re: RE terryp1 [tedtcb] by judylink
Apr 15, 2009 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: tedtcb (Apr 14, 2009 2:40 pm)

I appreciate the time you took to write your post and the information! After my "lock up" I had to get the diff. fixed only once (CRV 2006). The dealership was tight lipped and difficult. The general manager said that I'd have to pay if the diff needs repair again-I don't think so..........
Thanks again for your insightful post! Keep us posted on any changes.
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Re: differentiating differentials [terryp1] by blueiedgod
Apr 17, 2009 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: terryp1 (Apr 14, 2009 1:59 pm)

BUNK to those who say Honda missprinted the recommended mileage for changing the differential fluid. This is a differential, for pete's sake, not an engine. They are supposed to go for a long time between changes. LONG time.
 
May I suggest studying the differences between a Honda RT4WD Differential and JUST a differential.
 
It is like using any stereotype about people. Sounds plain un-smart and un-educated.
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Re: differentiating differentials [blueiedgod] by cdamech
Apr 18, 2009 (2:49 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 17, 2009 11:54 am)

On my 2006 at 60K Km, my Honda CRV started shaking and vibrating again with the same symptoms when I had the differential problem at 27K Km. I took it in to Honda and they replaced the front Steering fluid pump under warranty. It still shook and called the service advisor who did not return my call. I called the Service Manager who went and did a test drive with me. He authorized a rear differential fluid flush (3 times) the standard treatment for the rear differential problem. This was all done under warranty as Honda must increase coverage by 5% over 60K Km main body train warranty to 63 K Km in Canada.
No questions asked and Honda service manager was very professional and went out of his way to make me happy.
Obviously HONDA knows that their rear differentials have issues. I was totally impressed with HONDA service manager.
By the way I have an Engineering degree with an MBA and do know something about cars.
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Re: differentiating differentials [blueiedgod] by tidester HOST
Apr 18, 2009 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 17, 2009 11:54 am)

It is like using any stereotype about people.
 
I have a hard time equating people with differentials.
 
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Re: differentiating differentials [cdamech] by blueiedgod
Apr 20, 2009 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: cdamech (Apr 18, 2009 2:49 am)

On my 2006 at 60K Km, my Honda CRV started shaking and vibrating again with the same symptoms when I had the differential problem at 27K Km. I took it in to Honda and they replaced the front Steering fluid pump under warranty. It still shook and called the service advisor who did not return my call. I called the Service Manager who went and did a test drive with me. He authorized a rear differential fluid flush (3 times) the standard treatment for the rear differential problem. This was all done under warranty as Honda must increase coverage by 5% over 60K Km main body train warranty to 63 K Km in Canada.
No questions asked and Honda service manager was very professional and went out of his way to make me happy.
Obviously HONDA knows that their rear differentials have issues. I was totally impressed with HONDA service manager.
By the way I have an Engineering degree with an MBA and do know something about cars.

 
Then the engineering degree should have suggested that the problem is with the fluid breaking down, not differential.
 
By subtracting equations:
 
Same differential, old fluid = does not work
Same differential, new fluid = works
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Old Fluid = does not work.
 
Do Hondas in Canada come with longer powertrain warranty than the bumper to bumper warranty? The ones in the US come with 3 year/36,000 mile bumper to bumper, and 5 years/60,000 mile powertrain warranty.
 
Not sure if the 5% increase was due to law suit settled in the US over the odometer inaccuracy.
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Re: differentiating differentials [blueiedgod] by terryp1
Jun 02, 2009 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 17, 2009 11:54 am)

You apparently believe that Honda's staff isn't smart enough or educated enough to publish an owner's manual that reflects the nature of the vehicle, including one with a Honda RT4WD differential.
If it happens that they've produced a differential that needs its oil changed and its clutch plates burnished every 7,000 miles or so, they screwed up. (And I expect they know it.) They seem to believe the engine needs oil changes every 10,000 miles. And of course a differential would be expected to go much longer between changes, even one named R2-D2 or whatever.
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Re: differentiating differentials [terryp1] by blueiedgod
Jun 03, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: terryp1 (Jun 02, 2009 10:02 am)

You apparently believe that Honda's staff isn't smart enough or educated enough to publish an owner's manual that reflects the nature of the vehicle, including one with a Honda RT4WD differential.
If it happens that they've produced a differential that needs its oil changed and its clutch plates burnished every 7,000 miles or so, they screwed up. (And I expect they know it.) They seem to believe the engine needs oil changes every 10,000 miles. And of course a differential would be expected to go much longer between changes, even one named R2-D2 or whatever.

 
Two words: Marketing and Accountants.
 
When you have engineers design a very good product and then hand it off to Marketing and Accountants, they are bound to mess it up.
 
I have Owner's manuals for the 83 Magna and 88 Prelude, and Honda sent sticky pages to paste over the ones in the book. But, with the addition of Lawyers to the corporate staff, they won't do it, because it would be equivalent to admission of guilt.
 
So, now it is 3 words; Marketing, Accountants, and Lawyers.
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Re: differentiating differentials [blueiedgod] by steve_ HOST
Jun 03, 2009 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 03, 2009 8:33 am)

The times I've seen sticky pages in owner's manuals, it was part of a TSB to correct errors or omissions. Quick example for an '04 CR-V (first item).

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