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Re: honda crv rear differential groan/moan [nklepper]
by blueiedgod
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Nov 12, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: nklepper (Nov 11, 2008 7:31 pm)
I just had my diff fluid replaced on my 2007 Honda CRV today due to grinding when turning and excessive road noise. It only has 22,000 miles on it. I also would like to know of any class action suits on this matter. This car has been a dream car up until now. After reading all these comments, I'm worried!
So, if they fixed it, what are you proposing they do in the class action? Wipe your bottom for a year? 
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- #250 of 391
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Re: CRV, FORESTER ISSUE'S [amiller1]
by blueiedgod
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Nov 12, 2008 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: amiller1 (Nov 07, 2008 4:09 am)
I AM TRYING TO DECIDE ON A CAR WOW! WHAT A DIFFICULT TASK. I LOVED THE CRV UNTIL I READ ALL THE ISSUE'S ABOUT THE REAR DIFF. MY QUESTION DOES IT REPEATLY HAPPEN?? OR ONCE YOU FLUSH THE FLUID AND REPLACE ITS FINE. I USUALLY HAVE MY CARS ABOUT 7YRS, I AM NOW DRIVING A 2002 TOYOTA HIGHLANDER WITH 105,000 MILES WITH NO ISSUES. (HUSBAND SAYS WE SHOULD KEEP WHAT WE HAVE) THEN I DROVE THE 2009 FORESTER, THAT WAS REAL NICE, BUT AGAIN THAT SEEMS TO HAVE ALOT OF ENGINE, AND HEAD GASKET ISSUE'S IN THE PAST. DON'T GET ME WRONG I KNOW YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME ISSUES BUT I DON'T WANT MAJOR ONES. LAST I AM THINKING ABOUT WAITING FOR THE TOYOTA VENZA TO COME OUT. PLEASE ANY FEEDBACK WOULD BE APPRECIATED
A) Yelling won't get you anywhere.
B) How dare a manufacturer expect the owners to do maintenance on their vehicles!!!!
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Re: honda crv rear differential groan/moan [blueiedgod]
by nklepper
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Nov 12, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Nov 12, 2008 8:48 am)
No! However, this is not normal maintenance you should have to contend with. If Honda comes up with a fix for the ongoing problem, I want to be contacted. Evidently you have never had a car that didn't have problems! This is my first vehicle that has to have something done to it every year besides the normal maintenance. No butt wiping necessary, just answers to a problem Honda knows exists and their customers have to put up with. Not good PR. This is my first foreign car, I have always bought American made cars with no problems.
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- #252 of 391
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Re: CRV, FORESTER ISSUE'S [blueiedgod]
by nklepper
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Nov 12, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Nov 12, 2008 8:49 am)
I love my CRV, just very disappointed in Honda not taking care of an ongoing problem. They need to fix this issue so it doesn't happen again on every CRV with a recall.
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- #253 of 391
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Re: honda crv rear differential groan/moan [nklepper]
by phisher
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Nov 12, 2008 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: nklepper (Nov 12, 2008 9:08 am)
If you just get your rear differential fluid changed every 25,000 miles or so it should be fine. Honda just incorrectly listed it in the owners manual as being needed to be changed every 60,000 miles. Differential fluid changes are a normal maintanece item also.
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Re: CRV, FORESTER ISSUE'S [blueiedgod]
by amiller1
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Nov 12, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Nov 12, 2008 8:49 am)
First I am not yelling, just usually write in caps, a habit. Second we take very good care of our vehicles and my husband does most of the routine care. I guess because of this we have been lucky and have had no problem. I just don't understand why paying so much for a vehicle than have to turn around and spend more for a problem that you would have thought would have been resolved. I do like the CRV but after reading so many issues on this site I am alittle worried about how much more the cost would be. I did call my local Honda dealer and asked the service people what I would have to do to prevent this problem. I was told I would have to change the fluid about every 15k miles, and I would have to pay the cost, which is about $70. To me this should be at least covered for the first 3ys or 36,000 by Honda, I am told it is not. Were you told something different or something different.
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Re: CRV, FORESTER ISSUE'S [amiller1]
by lzc
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Nov 13, 2008 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: amiller1 (Nov 12, 2008 4:51 pm)
While some posters have reported problems in getting a dealer to change the fluid free of charge, most have not. This is Honda's error and there is a TSB on the issue (#07-024) that instructs the dealer to change the fluid and burnish the rear differential clutches under its normal warranty. That is, you are covered.
The TSB goes on, "Out of Warranty: Any repair performed after warranty may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision before starting work."
Whoever told you this issue was not covered under warranty was in error. It's unfortunate, but common to all dealers, that some employees are poorly informed or simply instructed to try to charge for something they shouldn't be charging for.
Bottom line, an informed consumer should not have to pay for having the rear differential fluid changed until it's normally scheduled in the owner's manual.
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Re: CRV, FORESTER ISSUE'S [amiller1]
by phisher
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Nov 13, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: amiller1 (Nov 12, 2008 4:51 pm)
If you bring your CRV in to have the rear differential fluid replaced and they try and charge you point out in the manual that it only says that the differential fluid needs to be replaced at 60,000 miles. If they still try and charge you tell them that you will have to find a different dealership to get any work done. They know that the manual lists the incorrect interval and should replace the fluid for free until 60,000 miles. From my experience needing the fluid changed every 15,000 miles is a little extreme. I have had mine changed between 20-25,000 miles and am currently at 42,000 and currently don't need it changed yet. It sounds like the dealership you are going to has a poor service department if they are trying to charge you especially if the car is still under warranty Hope this helps. Looks like by the time I posted this I was beat to the punch by lzc.
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Re: CRV, FORESTER ISSUE'S [phisher]
by yarmie
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Nov 13, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: phisher (Nov 13, 2008 7:53 am)
I have a 2005 Honda CRV, 42,000 miles and I had to have the rear diff changed because of the moaning/groaning sound in the rear of vehicle. I went to Piazza Honda in Reading, PA, they asked if I wanted to have it changed "twice" while I was at it, at twice the cost of course. They changed it once, charged me $80. The noise is gone, but now I'm older and smarter, when I have it changed again in 30,000 miles or so, I WILL NOT PAY !
My manual says to change it after 90,000 miles, they kept telling me it was a missprint in my manual.
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Re: CRV, FORESTER ISSUE'S [yarmie]
by phisher
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Nov 13, 2008 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: yarmie (Nov 13, 2008 8:05 am)
The instructions from honda say to change the fluid drive the car for 5-10 miles and then flush and change again. If I were you next time you get service if it is there show them your receipt and the manual. Let them know about looking at the edmunds forums and that you think they ripped you off and if thats the way they do business that you would also have find a different place to have your service work done. If the dealership is a reputable one they should at least give you credit for what they charged you. Also do a review of the dealership on edmunds.
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