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Re: I wonder if I should have waited? [paisan]
by ateixeira
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Apr 05, 2007 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 05, 2007 7:19 am)
Yup, that would be cool.
How much does that trailer weigh loaded up? It's gotta be about 5k lbs, right?
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- #42 of 708
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Re: I wonder if I should have waited? [ateixeira]
by paisan
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Apr 05, 2007 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 05, 2007 7:45 am)
Figure the trailer is about 1500-1800 + the car which can weigh anywhere from 2700-3300 lbs depending on how much gear you stick in it.
-mike
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- #43 of 708
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Re: Saturn Vue or Ford Escape? Maybe... [ateixeira]
by kuoh
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Apr 05, 2007 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 05, 2007 6:50 am)
The old frontend could be picked out from a mile away when placed next to either of the other two. With the new one, yes there are differences, but they are similar enough in shape and scale, that with just a passing glance one could mistake them for each other. The Escape should be easy to eliminate with any view that shows a bit of the sides, since it still retains the overall boxy shape. With the Vue, if one didn't catch the notch in the headlights and it had a dark paint job to help conceal the bumper openings, one could easily pass one off for the other in not so bright conditions. There is no such confusion with the current design, regardless of which SUV on the market you compare it to.
I suppose that was Subaru's intent, to make it look like just another SUV. To Subaru, less polarizing seems to mean more common looking, but without added incentives like more power & ammenities for less money, I don't see them gaining that much ground over what they will lose. If the 06 model had looked like this when I was shopping, they would've lost me over to the Nissan Murano for sure.
KuoH
ateixeira said:
To be honest I don't see a lot of similarities there.
The Ford Escape's new grill is similar, sure, but look at the lower bumper, and other views differ greatly.
I don't see the link to the Saturn Vue. Maybe just the angle of the front clip, but not any of the details.
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- #44 of 708
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Re: Subaru Tribeca 2008 [kamaki369]
by deep4
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Apr 05, 2007 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: kamaki369 (Apr 03, 2007 7:26 am)
Tribeca with its original front end was innovative and gave something to talk about. Being an owner of a 17 year old Legacy I was immediately attracted to 06 Tribeca and actually got one. After seeing the new Tribeca I am absolutely glad that I have the previous year model, not a toned down bland version.
Subaru's new design is very dissappointing. Instead of moving away from the crowd with a cult front end, Tribeca in this new look will just be another run of the mill SUV. No doubt people who want something with a different look will now again go back to Nissan Murano.
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- #45 of 708
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How about a Hybrid
by jefbak
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Apr 06, 2007 (6:04 am)
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I think A Hybrid version would really start turning some heads away from the other SUV's (like the Escape) along with more emphasis on the full time proactive awd that many other suv's do not have.
Since I just got a 24 month lease on a Forester, maybe this will happen when I'm in the market again (I am 6' 3" and don't really fit in the Forester all that well).
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- #46 of 708
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when...
by kevinaldo
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Apr 06, 2007 (9:34 am)
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when will 2008 hit the dealer?
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- #47 of 708
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Re: Subaru Tribeca 2008 [deep4]
by morey000
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Apr 06, 2007 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: deep4 (Apr 05, 2007 8:00 pm)
That's pretty much exactly how I feel. The Murano and the 'beca were the two coolest looking CUVs. (actually- I like the styling of the Murano better- but I liked the Tribeca more overall- for many reasons)
This definately put's the tribeca into the mainstream. Eventually - the '06/'07 design will begin to look like the 'old' model, regardless of whether the styling was more insteresting.
I probably would have never went for the test drive if the original 'beca looked like the '08. But- then again, perhaps many more people would have in my place. Good luck subaru. er... and can I have that new engine in my '07 please?
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- #48 of 708
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Re: Subaru Tribeca 2008 [morey000]
by ateixeira
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Apr 07, 2007 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: morey000 (Apr 06, 2007 10:42 am)
I guess we'll never know if the 3.6l engine by itself would have boosted sales for the old design. They were soooo far off target, though. 
I mentioned this in the other thread - if this 08 had been introduced from the get-go, noone would call it boring. The shoulder lines, concave panels, bold fender flares, all those things are relatively unique.
Sure, one SUV or another shares maybe one of those, but not all. By itself, on its own merits, it would have been well received.
Problem is, the 06 was so shocking, out on a limb, that whatever followed was going to be called bland.
It's less stunning, no doubt, and will surely be less polarizing, too. Sadly the old polarizing style never got the 3.6l engine and the styling just didn't draw in enough buyers.
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- #49 of 708
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Re: Subaru Tribeca 2008 [kamaki369]
by dt63944
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Apr 10, 2007 (8:30 pm)
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Replying to: kamaki369 (Apr 03, 2007 7:26 am)
I'm sure Ford had an audience for the Edsel, too (whose front-end I thought of immediately when I saw the 07 B9T). Unfortunately, Subaru cannot customize every aspect of their cars. While you apparantly loved the "Edsel-like" front-end, the vast majority of potential customers didn't. I'm impressed especially with the interior materials quality and the fulltime VDC seems reasonable to keep costs down, since I doubt very many people would switch it off anyway and Subaru probably wouldn't want people switching it off, pretending that they knew more about the risks and benefits than they really did. Good luck finding a car that you like at a price you can afford, however the 2007 B9T's can be had at a good cost and will probably be as close to the perfect car for you as any out there. I doubt you'll find another bizarre-looking model from Subaru anytime soon, they are too small to make the kind of designs that appeal to you but keep away the vast majority of potential customers. I'd be interested in hearing how you think Subaru should have redesigned the Tribeca, if at all, though; you might have some good ideas the designers hadn't thought of and they do read these boards (which is one advantage of being a small company, I guess).
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- #50 of 708
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Re: Get in Line Behind Me! [ateixeira]
by dt63944
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Apr 10, 2007 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 03, 2007 4:14 pm)
I feel the same way about Chrysler styling: I think the Pacifica is a gorgeous interior and exterior design, but the materials quality is mediocre at best, something that Chrysler has had problems with particularly since Daimler bought them. If this redesign is being done by the same people redesigning the Forester, I might wait before replacing my 04 Forester. In every way, except perhaps a little more rear visibility, the 08 Tribeca improves on the earlier models. If they have maintained a lot of the good mechanicals and were diligent about enhancing reliability as I would expect, the Tribeca should finally be a success.
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