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#187 of 256
Re: Wheel Locks [paisan] by cptplt
Apr 17, 2008 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 15, 2008 6:26 pm)

thats almost as good as when a Ford dealer told me the correct torque is hand tighten then another half turn!!
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So... by mfletou1
Apr 17, 2008 (3:44 pm)
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What's up with the Outback 2.5i Limited not having steering wheel radio controls???
 
Pretty glaring omission.
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Re: So... [mfletou1] by paisan
Apr 18, 2008 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: mfletou1 (Apr 17, 2008 3:44 pm)

its a 2.5i, that's a base model, none of the base models have them IIRC.
 
-mike
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Re: So... [paisan] by mfletou1
Apr 18, 2008 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 18, 2008 4:06 pm)

A "Base" model that is called "limited," stickers for nearly $29,000 and has virtually every other possible option?
 
Not buying it. If you equip a vehicle with leather, heated seats, a WOW surround sound system, a big honking moonroof, digital auto climate control, etc...you can put a steering wheel control on the wheel. Cars a lot cheaper than that have them.
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Re: So... [mfletou1] by kmaurer
Apr 19, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: mfletou1 (Apr 18, 2008 5:21 pm)

Completely agree. The lack of steering-mounted radio controls is the one major gripe I have with my Limited sedan.
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In fact... by mfletou1
Apr 19, 2008 (6:24 pm)
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My Camry Hybrid has both steering wheel audio controls AND steering wheel climate controls. Let me tell you, once you get used to that...my other vehicle (a Honda Odyssey) has only the audio, but when I'm in it I instinctively try to change the climate setting on the wheel anyway.
 
Its really more of a safety issue than luxury--your eyes never need to leave the road.
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Re: In fact... [mfletou1] by paisan
Apr 19, 2008 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: mfletou1 (Apr 19, 2008 6:24 pm)

Well then we should ditch all buttons and go with voice controlled everything, that would be the safest, your hands wouldn't have to move at all?
 
Luxury just means you get more bells and whistles, like this feature. Perhaps they made a bad decision not including it on the lower non-turbo models, but they have to make a cutoff point somewhere, or else all the options would be included on the lowest trim level car.
 
-mike
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Re: In fact... [paisan] by mfletou1
Apr 20, 2008 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 19, 2008 7:55 pm)

The lowest trim level car is the 2.5i. You seem to be drawing no distinction between a 2.5i and a 2.5i Limited. Limited IS the trim level--see the Forester, which after the LL Bean contract expires, will sell the 2.5x, 2.5x Premium, and 2.5x Limited. The 2.5x Premium and 2.5x Limited both have steering wheel radio controls. You're paying $4000 dollars for the Limited trim.
 
Oh, and yes, I think Bluetooth is a safety feature, also.
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Re: In fact... [mfletou1] by paisan
Apr 20, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: mfletou1 (Apr 20, 2008 10:23 am)

Are we talking about foresters or legacies here? Don't forget the FORESTER is in the first year of a "new" generation. The 08/09 Legacies are the LAST years of the "old" generation. No reason for them to throw out new features etc. for the outgoing models.
 
Also from what I've been told FHI nickle and dimes SOA on options the same way that dealers do to the end customer. So SOA has to make decisions on what to put in and what to leave out, unfortunately sometimes things get cut. As for bluetooth as a "safety" item, PLEASE, you don't HAVE TO talk on the phone while driving, if you MUST, then there are a lot of options, but to say it's a SAFETY feature is borderline ridiculous, it would be nice to have it integrated, but it's in no way a safety feature, it's very much a convience feature.
 
-mike
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Re: In fact... [paisan] by mfletou1
Apr 20, 2008 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 20, 2008 6:46 pm)

You don't have to speed, either, yet people do it and we laud features like VSC and AWD that helps them keep the car on the road.
 
Bottom line: talking on the cell phone while driving kills people, and switching to hands free device mitigates the risk. Therefore, its a safety feature.
 
As for the original point, we're not exactly talking advanced technology here. I really don't think the year of the model span has much to do with it. I think the nickel and dime part is more operative. SOA is going to learn the hard way, though--you can dismiss these features, but the competition is starting to get them, so SOA is going to have to to keep up. As far as I'm aware, btw, Bluetooth isn't even offered on any level Forester--so much for that theory.
 
I brought up the Forester though to demonstrate that I thought your definition of "trim level" was off--the Forester and Outback are named the same way.

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