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#76 of 110 Re: 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid [bigredone]
Feb 15, 2011 (1:26 pm)
I'm a woman in need of help! from some of you guys with experience out there. Reading here has been very informational, but I've not seen my question answered. I currently drive an '03 HCH and am the second owner. I bought it certified in 2006 and have loved it! That was until about 3 weeks ago when the Honda dealership told me it needed a new IMA battery to the tune of $3600! Wow!
Despite all I've read on the forum (I'm a newbie), my civic has been wonderful. Repair and pain free. Now that I'm more educated from this site re: hybridology, I'm getting a bit worried. The fact that I began to notice a drop in mileage (I still get 38-40 in a hilly town) and a slight "cough" in acceleration about 8 months ago is now beginning to make sense. I've always driven it for best mileage, sometimes hyper-miling and have taken good care of the car. I was lucky enough to contact the original owner who emailed me a spreadsheet of his excellent history and records, so no surprises there. Too bad I lost his records with a computer crash; I have all mine, however, and still have his contact info.
I cannot, no way, afford this repair at this time. I'm considering having the battery rebuilt given the good reports I read about the guys at Hybrid-Battery-Repair. I've spoken to them; it could take up to 6 weeks turn-around time. Trouble is, I cannot remove and re-install my battery and I'm thinking the dealer will not do it for me, *** so what type of mechanic would I look for to remove and install it for me?? ***
The car will be paid off in 5 months, which makes this really a bummer! Is it worthwhile to do this repair? I'm concerned about more costly repairs ahead.
All experience and expertise offered will be much appreciated!!
#77 of 110 Hybrid-Battery-Repair in NY
Feb 21, 2011 (11:25 am)
I am considering buying a re-furbished battery from this company for my '05 HCH and was wondering if someone that has first-hand experience in dealing with them would let me know how that experience went and if they are satisfied or not.
Thanks in advance.
#78 of 110 Re: Hybrid-Battery-Repair in NY [adam801]
Feb 23, 2011 (11:50 am)
Hi - If it the place in Staten Island then I recommend them. They have the best disconnect instructions and the price is worth the wait!!!!... The owner Ron is very helpful..
#79 of 110 Re: Hybrid-Battery-Repair in NY [bigchief112]
Apr 05, 2011 (7:40 pm)
Ron at Hybrid Battery Repair was very helpful - called him up a few months ago and he actually spent time talking me through the options. Problem was I was going to be without a car for 6 weeks and he was out of loaner batteries. Glad to see he is doing so well! Anyway, I opted for the dealership option and had my 03 HCH back the next day for just under $2400. This was worth it to me because I figured I had saved about $3,000 in gas alone since I have had the car. Everything else about the car is great - best car I've ever had. 183 K miles. Only other major repair in past year: replacing the struts.
Anyone out there on their 3rd battery? Interested in what the 2nd battery life expectancy is.
#80 of 110 Re: Hybrid-Battery-Repair in NY [sean70]
Apr 26, 2011 (4:20 am)
You guys should really look into hastling corporate Honda of America before dishing out money out of your own wallet. They released these cars into the consumer market with the promise of standing behind them with excellent warranty coverage, they should be the ones picking up the tab on IMA/battery issues for the first 10 years at least to protect their Hybrid brand integrity. I recently just had my 07 Civic Hybrid (44k mi) extensively worked on, new BCM and a few sensors and wiring working out to around $3,000 retail, I paid just a $200 customer service/diagnostic fee after speaking with HoA for a brief time over the phone about my situation. In many states the certain IMA components are covered to 10yrs/150k, but even 8/80 is pretty good for everyone else. Doesnt hurt to ask for free car repair before laying down $2000-3000!!
#81 of 110 Re: So why did I buy a Hybrid? [jer45]
Apr 26, 2011 (4:24 am)
Oh and as a a side note in case anyone was wondering, it is 100% safe and normal for the car to be drivin without IMA system function at all. As long as you dont start removing too many parts off the car, the DC-DC converter will continue to operate and power the electrical system (except over 4k RPM the gas engine runs without DC-DC conversion). When we first bought the car, it was running on gas only. You just dont get Autostop or that extra kick in the pants assist gives up hills without screaming the 3-cylinder past 4k rpms.
#82 of 110 2003 HCH w/ Battery Issues
May 16, 2011 (5:43 pm)
So I am totally desperate. I bought an 03' HCH in 07' and put basically all my savings into it. It lasted me about 10 months (about 143k miles on it) and then the hybrid battery stopped working (not sure if its a dead hybrid battery or just a problem). I took it to the Honda dealer and they basically told me it would cost $1,000 for them to do some work to just FIND OUT whats wrong with it. I am getting married in two weeks and strapped for cash and still need a car. Has anyone had a similar scenario? What'd you do? Would it be worth me putting in 2-3k into?
#83 of 110 Re: How-to article describing Civic hybrid battery pack rebuild [electriclamb]
Jun 22, 2011 (5:28 am)
I just found this post. (a year later)
Hardly my fault you keep jacking up your prices!
I've only changed prices once - ever.
And as far as errors in the article... Ha! they are too small to even be mentioned as significant for a rebuild. Anyone who can follow simple instructions can do the rebuild fine.
For a few selected types of cell failures, but packs with those problems alone are now few and far between. As far as the mistakes in your methods, I'm not at liberty to discuss them here, but let's just leave it at: years of experience has taught us that hobbyist test equipment is inadequate to find and diagnose most of the problems with these packs.
BTW, If you had simply been helpful when I asked last year, I may have gone out of my way to keep your info in the article. But since you chose to blow me off when I had questions,
Mike, I have a long string of emails between us where I was extremely helpful to you and gave you a great deal of information and time. In fact, the problem was that I didn't have enough time to continue to help you. I did have a business to run.
I thought the editors choice to delete your info appropriate for the article. What goes around comes around, you know. LOL!
Yes, I did a good turn for someone and get shafted. Eventually the Karma will come around to bite you, Mike.
#84 of 110 Re: 2003 HCH w/ Battery Issues [cruthik3615]
Jun 22, 2011 (5:18 am)
Did you buy it off a new or used dealer lot? I'm asking because most car's that sit parked for about 90 days experience an IMA battery failure 8 months later +/- 2 months.
#85 of 110 Re: So why did I buy a Hybrid? [breaking42]
Jun 22, 2011 (5:38 am)
Some IMA failures allow the car to run with the battery disabled and the DC-DC converter engaged. Others do not. I would estimate that about 20% of all P1449 failures leave the alternator light off. The problem with a broad reaching statement is that the other 80% have no 12v charging, or are still interacting with the battery, which will continue to degrade, and they will eventually have no 12v charging. We developed a modified computer to Temporarily allow running of the car without a battery, but it is a less than ideal solution. The 12v won't charge at idle or above 3800 rpm. It also will not pass inspection that way.