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#47 of 110 Hybrid-Battery-Repair.com a life saver
May 02, 2010 (10:18 am)
I wish I would have read this thread before purchasing a used Civic Hybrid. I am seeing a consistent message throughout, CVT failures and high cost of replacing a battery pack. Anyway, I just purchased a 2003 Civic with 119,000 miles [from a used car dealer] and thought I was really getting a good deal as I paid a couple of thousand under what most 03ís where going for. I drove the car and it seemed to drive well except for the transmission shift leaver being hard to move. The dealer took off an additional $500 because of the shifting problem. A CarFax report said the CVT was replaced at 18,000 miles.
What I didnít notice, however, was the shudder at low speeds. My local Honda dealer replaced the shift cable ($175) but the shudder at low speed was a separate matter. This required draining and flushing the transmission twice and burnishing the clutches ($87). This did fix the shudder problem but the 30+ year vetran Honda mechanic said I should probably change the fluid once more in about 7500 miles.
Next step, the check engine light was on and the dealerís diagnostics said I needed both O2 sensors and a new IMA battery. Honda only sells the O2 sensors as a kit (installed price about $600) so I deferred this repair for later. You can get these parts at a auto parts store for around $200. For the IMA battery the technician had to personally talk with Honda Parts and they sent a loaner MCM to be installed, Honda required a dealer employee to drive the car as long as their loaner part was installed so one of the technicians drove the car home and back a couple of days, about a hundred miles, and they would then perform more diagnostics (the MCM was $1700 if I would have needed it).
Before I spent more money on diagnostics I talked with a company called Hybrid-Battery-Repair.com and gave them the error codes from the diagnostics, they were pretty sure that the MCM was not the problem so I purchased a refurbished IMA battery from them for $1600 including shipping which is at least a $1000 less than a refurbished battery from Honda. I replaced it myself in about an hour using their instructions and a couple of phone support calls. I drove the car about 30 miles and stopped at a local parts store and used their diagnostic tool and everything checked out fine including the O2 sensors. I donít fault my Honda dealer as they were just following the shop manual procedures but if anyone is having IMA battery problems do contact this company because they will save you a ton of money. All in all I still only have in the car what NADA sayís it is worth so I didnít really get hurt. By the way, if the MCM would have been bad Hybrid-Battery-Repair sells these for only $100.
#48 of 110 Re: Hybrid-Battery-Repair.com a life saver [bigredone]
May 02, 2010 (11:04 am)
FYI: You don't buy a hybrid to save money! Sure you get a few more MPG's, but even after 115,000 miles that has not come close to offsetting the difference a lot of repairs cost. To wit: I had to have the catalytic converter replaced. Had it been the regular Civic, the cost would have been $400. The hybrid? $1200. And now I worry each day about having to buy another IMA battery.
If you have the money it is fine to be greener. Personally I won't own another one.
#49 of 110 How-to article describing Civic hybrid battery pack rebuild
May 03, 2010 (2:53 am)
The June/July issue (#137) of Home Power magazine has all the steps and tools described for replacing the battery pack of a 2003 Civic Hybrid. In it Mike said "The Honda dealership wanted $3,200 to replace the battery pack with a factory-refurbished one" yet in the end he did it for $380 using a "Used battery pack from junkyard ($315), Charger/reconditioner, iMax B6 ($55), Torx socket, #30 ($6) and Electrical energy (10Ę per kWh) ($4)". It took him about a month to work through the testing of all the battery sticks using the one "iMax B6" charger but it was time well spent I'd say. It was also pure brilliance to think to use a charger from the R/C hobbies world for this purpose; I cannot think of any group of people who are more picky about proper care of batteries than the ones with big $$$ tied up in models that can scream along at several hundred MPH.
#50 of 110 Re: How-to article describing Civic hybrid battery pack rebuild [massey4]
May 10, 2010 (2:33 pm)
>The June/July issue (#137) of Home Power magazine has all the steps and tools
>described for replacing the battery pack of a 2003 Civic Hybrid.
Mike seriously misquoted me in that article and has some factual errors, but he's mostly right. If anyone wants to fix their own battery, they should contact me for corrections before they start.
> It was also pure brilliance to think to use a charger from the R/C hobbies world
> for this purpose
You mean, like this? (No, he didn't think it up.)
#51 of 110 Re: How-to article describing Civic hybrid battery pack rebuild [Ogre_GEV]
May 19, 2010 (12:40 am)
Can you email me the article? I would like to rebuild my battery pack.
#52 of 110 Re: How-to article describing Civic hybrid battery pack rebuild [budilee]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
May 19, 2010 (8:37 am)
The article is linked and available for download in Ogre_GEV's post!
#53 of 110 catalytic conv and battery
May 26, 2010 (11:59 am)
I've just been told both cats and the battery are failing. Glad I read these posts before forking over $4K to the dealer service dept. I will never buy another Honda. The 10 year extended warranty was apparently worthless...
#54 of 110 Re: catalytic conv and battery [stacys1]
May 26, 2010 (12:29 pm)
Well worthless to us, rather worthy to the seller of the extended warranty!
#55 of 110 Hybrid civic Battery pack
May 27, 2010 (7:47 am)
Honda was great with my car. Needed a new battery pack (180,000km and 7+ years) at a quoted price of 5300$CN. The Honda garage and Honda Canada substantially reduced this cost in the end and I was grateful to both. My service representative did all the work and told me to wait to see what he could do about the cost. While I was shocked the battery went after the 7 year guarantee, Honda made good on their product afterall. Good for them! I for one will again buy another Honda (5 so far).
#56 of 110 Re: How-to article describing Civic hybrid battery pack rebuild [Ogre_GEV]
Jul 18, 2010 (8:23 am)
I have a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid with 97,000 miles on it. I would like the information on how to rebuild the IMA battery pack myself. I understand the magazine article was not accurate. Can you either send me the upgrade instructions by email, or tell me where I can get it?
Thank you so much.