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Replying to: irisheyes785 (Jun 13, 2008 1:29 pm) Hmmmm....I don't know about the Civic,but I have friends who own Priuses and both are over 100K miles with 0 problems.Maybe it's a problem for Honda,not for Hybrids in general.If I could afford a Prius,I guarantee I would be buying one,but a Honda hybrid...not so sure. |
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Hi. I have a 2003 Honda Hybrid with 65,000 miles. The IMA light went on a few days ago and they have determined the Hybrid battery needs to be replaced. I have not experienced transmission issues yet, but happy I still have the battery covered by warranty. I am tempted to seel the car at this stage if the battery life is only 5 years old. When I bought the vehicle, I was under the understanding that the battery life would outlive the vehicle life, and finding it to be untrue. Does anyone know if the the new replacement batteries are expected to last longer?
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Replying to: mtnhybrid (Jun 19, 2008 7:24 pm) If you have a vehicle which is out of warranty, or just want to get your hybrid working educate Honda and tell them to change this battery before you do anything else. My advice would be to get the biggest deep cycle battery you can find. Check out what happens to a low 12V battery at www.Hondalemon.com In the interest of safety I ask that anyone whom has seen the IMA light while driving report the problem to the NHTSA. IF you get IMA failure while you turn at a light you could easily crash as the steering can become impossible to turn. |
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| We have the 2003 Civic Hybrid and have gone through two transmission replacements and the catalytic converter replacement. They were all under warranty, but now we're at 108,000 miles and today when I applied the brakes, a ding ding ding sound went off and wouldn't stop unless I turned the car off. A sound almost like a seatbelt warning ding. No other lights came on. I pulled over and called our Honda service center and they didn't have a clue. The car is driving okay, but what I have noticed is that the battery charge is almost full and hasn't moved one bit all day. It normally always varies up and down. After several hours it still seems stuck on full charge. This one has me really worried. We've found that the Honda technicians (nice as they are) have a hard time diagnosing this car. | |
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Checking out the postings and solved a problem with an A/C issue this evening. I am nearly 197K miles and had very minor problems in the past 5 years. I find the dealers are really out of line to their customers. There is nothing to tie them to you after the sale, and woe if you didn't buy at their store. In Pittsburg California I was charged 120$ to tell me what the light on the dash said. I told them the light already told me that!! So now test the battery, they said the only thing they could do is go by the computer reading---. I wanted a test on the battery itself and they must not know how to do that. Thanks for the posting on the engine battery voltage thing and the main oxygen sensor. I'll do that this week and see if if will clear the IMA issues. I know that my battery pack is still good for sometimes it does great. Mechanically speaking vehicles do not heal themselves, so an intermittent problem speaks of computer or sensor issues. By the way, The only time I had problems is after program updates to solve service bulletin call-ins. I requested the original program that came with the car as purchased, and you can guess the looks I got for that. Give me back what I bought. I have also noticed the quality of fuel will vary as much as 20%, even from the same vendor. Ethanol spiked fuels suck, and some octants below 87 will hit me for 5 to 10 mpg. I filled up in L.A. on my way to Seattle and was at 38 mpg, filled up at Eugene OR and immediately jumped to 55 mpg. I finished the trip to Seattle and back down to central Calif before filling again, so I know it was the gas. I'll drive at the speed limits with the air on, with comfortable conserving thoughts, and measure what the car can do. Thoughts of a new car, most likely a Prius, but I like the Tesla Roadster!! Wow 
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Replying to: hrpro (Jul 31, 2008 12:46 pm) To make a long story short, the dealer and District service manager finally agreed to replace the battery. The car now has 85,000 miles on it. Not easy to get a warranty replacement unless there is an outright failure with service codes indicating a failed battery. On another issue, the car has had a transmission bucking at low speed (<20mph). This is on the automatic transmission. Honda calls it jitter, and has a service bulletin. Had a new transmission put in at about 45,000 miles. Had new clutches put in a few months ago. Neither of these fixed the problem. Finally, they replaced the EGR valve, even though there were no codes. I mentioned this to them a year ago (it is all over the internet), but without codes, they did not believe the internet stuff. Well, for the first time in the last 50,000 miles, the transmission runs without the bucking. |
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Replying to: stan29 (Aug 15, 2008 5:15 pm) My 2003 had a transmission problem at about 32k miles. It was out of warranty, but the dealership (Curry Honda in Atlanta) replaced the starter clutch for free - they said there was a bulletin on the problem, and the technician, who seemed knowledgeable about the hybrid (this was in 2006) came out and explained it to me. Yesterday at 68k miles, I had the dreaded "Your IMA needs a very expensive repair" light come on, and they told me it needed a new battery. Of course, its still under warranty, but they told me it was a $5,000 part!?!? I love my car, the way it drives and the fuel economy. I knew this day was coming, but didn't expect the price to sting so much. Hopefully the next time it needs this kind of work, a less expensive aftermarket solution will be available. (Something better than going to Wal-mart and filling up the shopping cart with NiMH D cells.)
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Replying to: ericzundel (Mar 24, 2009 3:04 am) Regardless, when it's out of warranty, it can be repaired for less than $1000.
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Replying to: Ogre_GEV (Apr 04, 2009 12:22 am) Currently, I see (at least 1000 miles after code was read at dealership) that the indicator shows it's charging a little less than fully every time I drive, and takes longer to recharge to that point, and less time to discharge when accelerating. Gas mileage declining too. Honda America won't budge on the $3000 price tag, though I was told less than half that cost when I bought the car. Reluctant to invest in this car, trying to decide whether to keep or sell Questions: 1) Will degrade gradually, or sudden loss of function with hazardous conditions? 2) Can nightly charging my (relatively-new) 12V battery help keep my hybrid battery charged? If the hybrid battery sucks power from 12V while parked, could this extend my hybrid battery life, long enough to shop for a new ride? 3) I had both catalytic converters replaced around 10k on recall and again at 98k; if they're likely to fail again soon, why replace hybrid battery? Any insight? no pun intended 4) If I drive another vehicle while advertising this car for sale, is the hybrid battery going to die from being parked too long? I just did brakes, struts, tires...Thought of keeping this car, getting 2nd veh. as backup veh. but wondering I can affford to invest in this...yet can't afford to take the hit from selling it for next-to-nothing... Getting very wide ranging estimates of what dealers would give for trade. |
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I'm at 154k now, and I had the dealer diagnose the check engine light when it was staying on; the code said hybrid battery would soon need replacement. They cleared ck. engine light but it came back almost immediately, followed by the IMA light.... both went out on their own, about 500 miles later. Currently, I see (at least 1000 miles after code was read at dealership) that the indicator shows it's charging a little less than fully every time I drive, and takes longer to recharge to that point, and less time to discharge when accelerating. Gas mileage declining too. Honda America won't budge on the $3000 price tag, though I was told less than half that cost when I bought the car. Reluctant to invest in this car, trying to decide whether to keep or sell Questions: 1) Will degrade gradually, or sudden loss of function with hazardous conditions? 2) Can nightly charging my (relatively-new) 12V battery help keep my hybrid battery charged? If the hybrid battery sucks power from 12V while parked, could this extend my hybrid battery life, long enough to shop for a new ride? 3) I had both catalytic converters replaced around 10k on recall and again at 98k; if they're likely to fail again soon, why replace hybrid battery? Any insight? no pun intended 4) If I drive another vehicle while advertising this car for sale, is the hybrid battery going to die from being parked too long? I just did brakes, struts, tires...Thought of keeping this car, getting 2nd veh. as backup veh. but wondering I can affford to invest in this...yet can't afford to take the hit from selling it for next-to-nothing... Getting very wide ranging estimates of what dealers would give for trade.
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