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Town & Country/Grand Caravan Problem Codes

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Re: emission problems with town and country [holley123] by saxmom1
Sep 22, 2009 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: holley123 (Apr 05, 2007 9:52 am)

I have a 2004 Chrysler Town and Country Van. The check engine light is on, and the diagnostic code P0032 is coming up. What does this mean?
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Re: emission problems with town and country [saxmom1] by xwesx
Sep 22, 2009 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: saxmom1 (Sep 22, 2009 6:21 pm)

P0032: HO2S Heater Control Circuit High (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
 
Now, what does that mean.... hmmm..... ?
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Re: emission problems with town and country [xwesx] by srs_49
Sep 23, 2009 (3:15 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Sep 22, 2009 6:50 pm)

This involves one of your front (ahead of the catalytic converter) O2 sensors. They have a heating element in them to make them reach operating temperature faster, so that the ECU goes into closed-loop operation sooner thus reducing emissions.
 
This code indicates something is wrong with the heater for that O2 sensor. The heater element in the sensor could be bad; there could be a wiring/grounding problem; or whatever sends the +12V to the heater could be bad.
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Re: How do you get the codes? [mele503] by brad32378
Sep 24, 2009 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: mele503 (Apr 30, 2008 4:45 pm)

on my 2001 town&country with the car off push the button on the milage counter when the trip portion is up hold it for 5 seconds and have a pen and paper ready if its the same it will give you the softwear version first then the codes....be ready to write mine went kinda fast..LOL good luck
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2005 Grand Caravan Emission TestingProblem by yuthea
Nov 04, 2009 (8:16 am)
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My 2005 Grand Caravan had engine light several months ago. On 7/12/09, the dealer replaced the Exhaust Gas Circulation Valve.The engine was cleared.
* On 9/04/09, 814 miles later, I took it to Emission testing, and it failed - "Test failed due to excessive OBD monitors not ready, return after the vehicle has been driven in accordance with the manufacturer drive cycle." The testing operator and the dealer told me to drive more, and I did.
* On 9/21/09, after 463 miles later, I took the van for the Emission Testing again. This time the testing was 'Aborted': "Test aborted due to excessive OBD monitors not ready, return after the vehicle has been driven in accordance to the manufacturer drive cycle." After talking with Dodge engineer, the dealer replaced anoth sensor - The Oxygen Sensor.
* On 10/22/09, after 466 miles later, I had the Emission Testing again. The test was aborted again. Due to the same 'Excessive ODB monitors not ready ....
* Then after checking the van, the dealer said the computer was defective. They ordered it and replaced it on 10/27/09. The dealer told me to drive for 50 miles and it should be fine.
* On 10/30/09, after 92 miles of driving, I took my van for the Emission testing. The test was aborted again due to the same "Excessive OBD monitors not ready, ..."
My big question is: What is wrong with my van? Right now I suspect that it might be something wrong with the Testing program itself.
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Re: 2005 Grand Caravan Emission TestingProblem [yuthea] by xwesx
Nov 04, 2009 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: yuthea (Nov 04, 2009 8:16 am)

It might have to do with the type of driving you do. If you take short, low speed trips, there are several loops that will not complete. I have had a couple cars that post periodic trouble codes, so I keep my scanner with me and read/clear them as necessary. Many times, I have done this only 20-30 miles prior to an emissions test, and it went without hiccup. However, my trip to the test site involves mostly highway driving, which is a required part of the loop.
 
You should be able to get ahold of the procedure in your owner's manual or from the dealer. If you follow that and still no luck, maybe it is the test facility. Have you gone to the same one every time? If so, try a different one.
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Re: 2005 Grand Caravan Emission TestingProblem [xwesx] by yuthea
Nov 05, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Nov 04, 2009 9:33 am)

Thanks very much for your comments.
I want to clarify that most of the mileage was on highway drives. My issue right now is that the dealer has no idea what is wrong. The dealer mechanics have contacted the Dodge co. several times, as I was told. To me, they all are just guessing. They have replaced two exhaust related sensors and a computer (maybe just a module?). Yesterday, I talked with the dealer again, and they said they have to talk to Dodge engineer again.
 
I also talked yesterday with a Connecticut DMV emission engineer on the phone. He said would call me and would see me at the testing station today. But so far, he has not called me yet.
 
Have you had any experience with testing stations that their softawre were not compatible to all kinds of cars.
 
Note: A few weeks ago, before the computer was replaced, a friend of mine used his tester (a $50-kind) to checked my van out after I had told him the issue. We found every thing was good, but a few days later I took the van to have the test again and it was aborted again.
 
I have spent more than 10 trips between the test facility and the dealer in two months. It was fortunate that I have just lost my job and had time for this headache.
 
Thanks again.
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Re: 2005 Grand Caravan Emission TestingProblem [yuthea] by xwesx
Nov 05, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: yuthea (Nov 05, 2009 9:48 am)

I have never experienced compatibility issues with the testing computers. That said, I have only run three different vehicles through computer-interfaced emissions testing and all of them were late 90's models (OBD II).
 
Your 2005 model likely uses the OBD II CAN interface, but I still would not expect there to be compatibility issues. As I recommended before, taking the van to a different testing shop could help clear that as a possible source.
 
Also, your dealership should be able to use a laptop-based real-time scanner to monitor the vehicle while it is in use. If a circuit is failing to set as "ready," I would think a program like that could help pinpoint the source fairly well.
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Re: 2005 Grand Caravan Emission TestingProblem [xwesx] by yuthea
Nov 06, 2009 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Nov 05, 2009 10:13 am)

This morning, I took my van to a Technical Center of the Connecticut State, and had my van retested. After I had explained and showed all the documents from the testing facility and dealer, the Technical Center retested my van. The test was PASSED. I asked what was the problem. The answer was "Some cars are very difficult to test."
 
When I got back home, I looked at the 'Vehicle Inspection Report'. They used PCTSI test type, instead of OBDII that the testing facility had used before.I do not understand the difference, but there is a comment at the bottom of the report:
 
 "This vehicle is not ready to determine the status of the pollution control system and the vehicle received an alternate emissions test. On the next inspetion cycle, this readiness failure may result ina reject of the vehicle."
 
This means that I'm not out of the hook yet!
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Re: 2005 Grand Caravan Emission TestingProblem [yuthea] by xwesx
Nov 06, 2009 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: yuthea (Nov 06, 2009 8:37 am)

Sounds like they ended up passing it based on the tailpipe emissions.
 
It is odd that something is preventing it from being in "ready "status, yet you are getting no codes indicating a bad sensor or some other fail. Perhaps monitoring your fuel economy, etc., over the next year or so versus prior (if you did that at all) will help to determine the source.
 
At least you can keep driving it for the time being!

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