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#16 of 53 Re: 2008 Availability [3rd_man]
May 24, 2007 (7:16 pm)
Has anyone heard more specifics about what changes are in the works for the RDX for the 2008 or even the 2009 model year. I can think of a lot that are needed to improve the sales of this slow-selling vehicle, even though it is a techie's dream, but suspect we're not going to see many of them, at least not in 2008. My ideal RDX, and one that would lead me to purchase it in a heartbeat, would have these modifications: (1) a more fuel efficient engine that burns regular fuel or, preferably, is a diesel or diesel-hybrid; (2) the ability to tow more than 1500 lbs (the current RDX, in my opinion, lacks much "utility" even though it is an SUV; (3) a power passenger seat; (4) a memory driver's seat; (5) better looking alloy wheels than the 2007 version (need to be brighter and not grayish,to match the brightness of the door handles; (6)a standard auto dimming rear view mirror (can't believe Acura makes you pay extra for this in a car this expensive); (7) auto on-off headlamps; (8) rain sensing wipers; (9)a somewhat softer suspension; (10) a 6 speed automatic transmission- should help highway fuel economy; (11) self-leveling, articulating HID headlamps; (12) LED taillamps with amber turn signals which, in my opinion, are easier for drivers to the rear to see; and (13) an option for a DVD player for the second row. How many of these dreams might become reality? Are you listening, RDX product managers?
#17 of 53 Re: 2008 Availability [tdiidman]
May 25, 2007 (7:02 am)
The RDX is really more of a "sport activity vehicle" like the BMW X3 (which the RDX is outselling, by the way). If you want more of a boat-hauling machine, you should look at the MDX instead. The MDX has many of the other features you list as well.
Rumors I've heard are that changes to the RDX are going to be pretty minimal, like a couple of new colors, moving some of the Tech features into the base model, and making some of the accessories standard. No word on pricing, but I expect that you will pay more to get more.
#18 of 53 Re: 2008 Availability [tdiidman]
May 25, 2007 (7:37 am)
I am currently considering an RDX. If the majority of the changes were made per the above post, I would no longer be interested in an RDX at all.
Different strokes, I guess.
#19 of 53 Re: 2008 Availability [tdiidman]
May 25, 2007 (8:58 am)
(1) are you certain, sure, the RDX cannot be safely fueled with 87 octane? Even the Porsche 996/997 series, 2001 and up, allows that.
(2) Demographics at "play". How many buyers have "this" interest?
(3) Power passenger seat... Power/memory seat "base" from Ebay? My 2001 Ford class "C" MH has an RX300 driver's memory/heating seat in the passenger's position, as does the driver's side. $250 on ebay for the RX300 "set", plus another $150 for an ES300 seat from which the memory/power base was removed and installed under the RX300 passenger seat.
Anyone in the market for a '97 ES300 driver's side seat but with an RX300 passenger side power seat base?
(4) See above.
(5) Aftermarket...my 2001 RX300 has 17X8 RH brand wheels along with +1 summer only Bridgestone Turanza tires.
(6) Nowadays auto-dimming rear view mirrors are not as viable as they once were due to the now consistently deeper tinting, darkening, of the rear and rear side windows in order to increase the efficiency of the climate control system. There is an aftermarket solution but absent putting the rear "looking"/view auto-dimming sensor on the outside rear(??)to avoid the tinting desensitation it would likely be useless.
(7) Auto-on/off headlamps...hmmm, does seem an odd thing to leave off.
(8) Rain sensing wipers. I have these on my 2001 C4 but I'm not so sure the cost would justify. Even here in Seattle.
(9) I would agree, air suspension would be really nice.
(10) Obviously you haven't yet had to endure the continuous "shiftiness" one encounters with a modern day 6-speed. More likely 9 "speed" with the modern day use of the torque converter lockup clutch in gear ratios below O/D.
All this "shiftiness", while somewhat discomforting as a driver will undoutedly improve FE and FWD safety. Most FWD and front torque biased AWD vehicles are now being programmed to upshift upon full throttle lift to prevent engine compression braking from resulting in loss of control or even ABS operational interference.
(11) The Feds require that HID headlamps be self-leveling. Insofar as "articulating" is concerned this seems to be a somewhat mixed bag. Where do these headlamps "point" as you are existing the curve/turn?
Not toward the roadbed.
(12) Aftermarket, Ebay, again, specifically V-LEDS, Velocity LEDS. Both my 2001 AWD RX300 and 2001 Porsche C4 are fully retrofitted to LEDs, tail/stop/turn/parking/street/DRLs/high mount. Plus many of the interior lamps. During DRL operation the tail/street/parking/marker LED lamps are also enabled as is required by our neighbors just to the north.
Backup bulbs are 12 volt 50 watt bi-pin halogens (re)fitted into OEM lamp Bases. With the RX, during tail light only operations the inside set of rear tail lamps are disabled but enabled for STOP/BRAKING. On the C4 both OEM rear "fog" lights are wired to come on with braking. These mods provide a much more pronounced notification to the rear that I am "on the brakes".
(13) Like with OEM embedded GPS/nav systems, an aftermarket solution (two DVD player/screens actually) will not only be more competitive overall, but more viable in that they can be moved about for use in other family vehicles.
#20 of 53 Re: 2008 Availability [wwest]
May 27, 2007 (9:37 am)
6) I don't understand this comment. If the auto-dimming mirror is factory-installed, it should be calibrated for whatever level of tinting is on the car. I have a CX-7 with OEM "privacy tint" on the rear glass, and I assure you, the auto-dimming mirror is still viable. I would think the increasing prevalence of taller vehicles with projector headlamps is mitigating any tint darkening trend.
11) HIDs are required to be "leveling," not "SELF-leveling." There are plenty of cars out there where the HIDs are leveled by the driver's finger. Which means if I'm not on point, I could conceivably aim the things to the sky. I don't change the load in my car too much, but can understand how the non-SELF-leveling lamps could be a pain.
13) I agree that aftermarket systems are the way to go. However, that's irrelevant to Acura. They stand to make a lot of money charging $1,100 for "integration" of a $300 device...
#22 of 53 Re: 2008 Availability [carlitos92]
May 27, 2007 (11:17 am)
6) I have auto-dimming on two vehicles. The one on the RX I have never noted to be at all functional, on the other one I added rear tint so it's my fault that it isn't functional.
On the latter one outside rear view mirror position "follows" driver seat memory so I simply use one of the extra seat memory positions to tilt the outside mirror downward slightly during night driving.
11) Not sure I fully understand here. Both of my HID equipped vehicles will auto level the headlamp assemblies each time I turn the ignition on. The RX will continue to self-level up to about 20MPH roadspeed. I only know of one vehicle wherein the driver can control headlamp "leveling" and in that case it turns out to be a "downward" over-ride of the existing auto-leveling. You can never move the headlamps above the auto-leveling upward "target".
13) The only reason my '01 Rx has a "captive" GPS/nav is because it was "packaged" with other features I wanted, something I will always resent.
There comes a time for all manufacturers, regarding factory vs aftermarket options, that demographics overcomes greed. Consumers do not indefinitely remain stupid to price/value disparaties.
Now if we could just get the idiot dealers to recognize that.
Back in late 99 when I was in the market for an early MY2000 AWD Chrysler T&C delivery every local dealer (Seattle) had them loaded up to the "gusset", every factory option consieveable and then locally installed dual headrest DVDs.
I called a dealer in AR who found me a "stripped" AWD T&C LXi.
#23 of 53 Re: 2008 Availability [wwest]
May 27, 2007 (5:33 pm)
I think the driver-controllable HIDs are more common in Europe (or at least used to be) - mainly because the HIDs are highly desirable there, but often on a car whose price point wouldn't justify the auto-leveling system. Think Mercedes C-Class with roll-up windows, and you get the idea. That scenario is less common here, but the CX-7 GT has this. Maybe also the Mazdaspeed 3 or 6...
I have a 5-position dial on the dash that is the only way of vertically aiming the HID headlights... There is a page in the manual that tries to correlate number of passengers (therefore, vehicle load) with dial position. But I think it's a crude baseline at best, and that the only way to realistically aim the headlights is out on the road, and even then only if you've owned the car a while and have a feel where the lights should be hitting.
For the record, I COULD have bought the $1K+ OEM DVD system in my Mazda (and have the kids and make the journeys to justify it) but ended up getting a dual-screen setup for less than $200. I admit that it looks junky slung over the headrests, but it also comes out of the car when not needed, reducing the chance of getting stolen, etc...
#24 of 53 Re: 2008 Availability [wwest]
May 27, 2007 (7:11 pm)
"(10) Obviously you haven't yet had to endure the continuous "shiftiness" one encounters with a modern day 6-speed"
I own a different brand, but I've never encountered anything I would call continuous shiftiness in my 6 speed AT. I find my 6 speed very responsive, and I much prefer it over a 5 speed I previously owned.
#25 of 53 2008 RDX
Jun 01, 2007 (3:28 am)
So basically nobody here knows anything about what is coming in the 2008 RDX...