Last post on Dec 15, 2009 at 9:06 PM
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#77 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [bmwannabe1]
Dec 09, 2009 (11:52 am)
People buy cars for many reasons . . .
My 2008 BMW 535i is my first BMW. A new convert, the car is my "ultimate driving machine." That takes the car's utlility off the charts because the drive was my top priority.
I once purchased a 1999 Volvo S80, for the safety features, knowing that the transmission was a Chevy that Volvo used because it was the only one that would fit. Knowing that the tranny was likely to fail and it did -- under warranty, of course -- reliability was not that big a deal. Safety and comfort were my main concerns given the 50 mile commute up and down I-95 that I had to then endure.
On this BMW purchase, I wanted a great drive, power and speed and at least 24 mpg. Add the styling and the intangible of panache: case closed. As much as I hate to go on record admitting this, reliability is not always important to me (or to others who buy cars). Otherwise, who would buy a Mercedes or a Dodge?
What was the question.? Happy driving.
#78 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [bmwannabe1]
Dec 09, 2009 (11:53 am)
I understand what you're saying. If you guys were to pick a very reliable car/getting a car for the money you pay, would BMW's be on top of your list?
Given the above, no and no. If you want a "very reliable car/getting a car for the money you pay", buy an Accord or a Camry. A BMW is a lot more than just what you asked about.
Sounds like you really don't have your heart set on a BMW, in the sense that "I just gotta have one".
#79 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [srs_49]
Dec 10, 2009 (11:19 am)
I think you misunderstood. I truly do want a BMW, not because I can want one, but because I love them. I'm simply asking if they can be "reliable" cars because I've heard the maintenance can be expensive for BMW's, given the fact I'm 17, also due to the fact that I'm under a price range since my parents are buying me the car.
#80 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [bmwannabe1]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Dec 10, 2009 (12:23 pm)
Well since the parents are footing the bill here, I think *they* should be in on this discussion
Bring 'em over!
#81 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [Mr_Shiftright]
Dec 10, 2009 (1:39 pm)
Hahaha God No. They'll get so intense about it, let's just keep it the way it is? What were all of your first cars?
#82 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [bmwannabe1]
Dec 10, 2009 (1:52 pm)
You have very good taste. FYI - Car and Driver magazine ran a feature recently re: the best used cars under $20,000. The original 1999 M coupe was dubbed "a prime example of nerd chic: incredibly cool to those in the know." This car is supposedly fun to drive, with plenty of storage space, unlike most two-seaters. I have only seen a couple of these M coupes. Rare is always good. Back to your reliability question -- BMW repairs when off warranty are pricey. That might be a concern in your situation. Good luck with Santa.
#83 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [phylp]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Dec 10, 2009 (1:54 pm)
The world's fastest wooden shoe?
#84 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [Mr_Shiftright]
Dec 10, 2009 (1:59 pm)
- Yep, now that you mention it, shoe is a good one.
- My first car was a 1965 Ford Mustang.
#85 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [bmwannabe1]
Dec 11, 2009 (4:10 am)
Your tastes in cars exceeds the size of your wallet. Yeah, you probably don't want to bring your parents around. If you did, we would probably be recommending a nice 5 year old Accord or a Civic
What were all of your first cars?
Mine was a 1969 Camaro Z-28 (you can see from that I'm probably older than you parents ). Paid for myself, as I was working and going to school at night.
#86 of 92 Re: Going in Reverse [srs_49]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Dec 11, 2009 (8:54 am)
I just don't know how a 17 year old will be able to support even the NORMAL maintenance requirements of a used BMW, much less the repairs, should they occur.
For any used German car, one has to realistically budget about $150 a month for maintenance and repairs, which includes "expendables" on the car (tires, brakes, wipers, tune up) but not gas/insurance/accident damage/catastrophic repairs.
So really, it's gonna cost, with insurance for a young 'un and gas for 12K miles, probably $4,000 a year to keep this car going...if everything goes pretty much okay with the car
so I trust parents have an extra $350 a month or so for this endeavor.
to be fair, much of this $$$ amount would apply to any car, but I suspect a used Toyota is going to cost you less to operate overall each year.