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Re: Which Porsche to buy [philhill] by ringleader6
May 29, 2007 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: philhill (Mar 23, 2007 2:21 pm)

Lets get one thing up front..... all of the 997 Porsch's are fast, real fast, including the base models. I cannot see any real world advantage for the all wheel drive unless you have a driver in a snow zone. Otherwise it is excess money and weight. As for the tip or 6 speed, do not be embarrassed to drive a tip, I have had two and love them. Now drive a 07 S. The tip is basically a four speed auto because it never uses first unless you really romp on it. But again, it is fast, real fast. It does take a little getting used to if you drive it hard due to it holding in gears, but you can drive it on the freeway, place it in manual, and kick butt without it being able to kick down into passing gear, just sheer power. They only produce about 4% in tips, so when you are ready to trade they demand a premium.
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Re: Which Porsche to buy [ringleader6] by habitat1
May 30, 2007 (1:53 am)
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Replying to: ringleader6 (May 29, 2007 4:10 pm)

"They only produce about 4% in tips, so when you are ready to trade they demand a premium."
 
I think that is geographic, because it doesn't appear to be true in my area (DC). The Tiptronic is a $3,420 option that, at my dealership and others in the DC area, seems to result in the car being worth LESS than a 6-speed on the resale market. At least with respect to the 997 911S and 996 Turbo models. Even the Cayman S with Tiptronic is a tough re-sell in my area.
 
Also, I would agree with you that all of the 997's are fast. But, that said, the performance "penalty" for the tiptronic is about the same as the "gain" in going from a base model to an "S". I respect that for some, the convenience is worth it. But for anyone who has driven a super-stiff clutch 996 Turbo and thinks that's what a 997 911S would be like, you owe yourself a test drive. The 997S 6-speed is as easy to modulate and use as any I've driven.
 
There isn't a bad (or slow) choice in the 911 line-up - just get the one that's right for you.
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Re: Which Porsche to buy [habitat1] by philhill
May 30, 2007 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 30, 2007 1:53 am)

Ringleader6 do you agree with habitat1 that a Porsche dealer should give me a big discount so he can advertise that Phil Hill bought his Porsche at my dealership? Do you sell cars in DC and work a delivery to Southern California or a drop ship?
philhill
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Re: Which Porsche to buy [philhill] by ringleader6
May 30, 2007 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: philhill (May 30, 2007 6:34 am)

"Phil Hill bought his Porsche here",mmmmmmmm don't know about that. I have read this blog for a year now, and I have not seen a big discount anywhere. The best discount I found was 9% with no dealer fees, etc. You can surf inventory on Porsch's website, and see there are few dealers with much inventory. Hennessy in Atlanta carries a bundle. I really question how most make the numbers work with the overhead they have now with every one in new facilities. I know one dealer who sold one new unit thru April this year. I don't think you can cover the transport to Cal unless you purchase one prior to docking from an eastern dealer and have it diverted to a Cal dealer. That way you pay the same delivery as anyone. I think you may have about run out of time for a 2007
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Re: Which Porsche to buy [philhill] by habu
May 31, 2007 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: philhill (Mar 23, 2007 2:21 pm)

I am looking at a 2000 C2 Cab with 42,000 miles and asked my local mechanic about the RMS issue. He works on all types of Porsches and took excellent care of my 87 911. He said if the seal has not been replaced he will do it for around $600 (6 hours of labor and $70 in parts). He has done several and feels even if the car is not leaking now it will sometime in the future. Does anyone know if this seal replacement fix he is selling will eliminate the RMS worry?
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Re: Which Porsche to buy [habu] by chrmdome
May 31, 2007 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: habu (May 31, 2007 6:06 pm)

Greetings:
 
The old words of wisdom apply here " If it ain't broken, don't fix it ". If the RMS was such as easy fix, the issue would not haven been beaten into the ground here on this forum, as well as all the others. My understanding is that if the seal is not placed in perfectly " square " it will leak. The Porsche company has replaced complete engines under warranty on the RMS issue. Even if it leaked just a little, you'll probably burn more oil that you'd loose; I don't care how good your mechanic is, you never get the car back to original factory fit once things have been removed.
These are just my opinions from varied experiences with mechanics... that's why I always change my own oil, Jiffy Lube won't cut it.. People will tell you that the 997 has resolved the RMS issue, ( I have an 06' C2S ) that will yet to be seen. Again , the little ditty about opinions....they are just like a-holes everybody has one. Good luck
 
CHromedome...enjoy the car, they are a kick!!
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Re: Which Porsche to buy [chrmdome] by habitat1
Jun 01, 2007 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: chrmdome (May 31, 2007 7:39 pm)

"that's why I always change my own oil, Jiffy Lube won't cut it.. "
 
A man after my own heart. Have you changed the oil in your 911 yourself? If so, can you refer me to any source for directions?
 
As a side note, we were at our second home over Memorial Day and when driving my old 1995 Nissan Maxima, I got pulled over for an expired inspection sticker. As I was fumbling to get the registration card for the officer, he saw my "Mileage Log" book that I kept in the glove compartment and asked to look at it. As he looked at it, he commented, "My God, you've changed your own oil in this car 42 times??". With that he let me go with a warning, but only with my promise that I would call him first before I ever sell the car. (The car has 155,000 miles and runs like new)
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Re: Which Porsche to buy [habitat1] by chrmdome
Jun 01, 2007 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jun 01, 2007 3:16 am)

Greetings:
 
Yep, oil changes. As my 2 children were in college and my wife and I were spending far more money on the " 2 girls " than we spent of ourselves ( we are now "two" and hense my Porsche ownership again...YES!!!), I had one car with 186,000 miles and the other with 165,000 miles..giving both to charity as the result of religious oil changes. Renntech.org has a DIY section with complete instructions for 997 oil changes. Actually the easiest oil change I've ever done. Drain and filter are within easy access, the only necessity besides the correct wrench to remove the filter canister is a large capacity oil drain pan ( obviously ). The only issue of caution in my opinion is to center the oil filter sleve carefully and do not over tighten the oil filter canister housing, other than that it's easy. Renntech s direction supplies illustrations, so it's a no-brainer.
 
Good luck,
 
Chromedome
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Re: Which Porsche to buy [chrmdome] by habitat1
Jun 01, 2007 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: chrmdome (Jun 01, 2007 5:35 am)

Thanks much, I'll check that Renntech reference out.
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C4S vs Cayman-s by chander
Jun 08, 2007 (7:42 pm)
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Habitat1
Was all set to buy a new Cayman-s, but a low mileage C4S-'03 is available,would that be a better choice for the north east.appreciate your advise.Thanx

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