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You are in the Nissan Sentra
What is this discussion about?
Nissan Sentra, Honda Civic, Sedan
Jun 19, 2007 (11:27 am)
Upgraded running gear on the Sentra SE-R includes firmer springs and larger wheels and brakes. The SE-R Spec V goes even further by specifying a retuned and lowered suspension, complete with a thicker front antiroll bar and a V-shaped reinforcement brace in back. The Spec V also has larger front brakes and stickier summer tires. The SE-R retrofits result in a better-handling car, but even in Spec V form, the econosport Sentra lacks the spark of competitors in this price range. From behind the wheel, it comes across as heavy and distant as opposed to lightweight and engaging.
The all-new 2007 Nissan Sentra is no doubt a better, more refined car than its predecessor, with more capable engines and a more pleasant, flexible cabin. If you're looking for an economy sedan that'll give maximum interior room and versatility for your buying dollar, the Sentra is a solid bet. However, if inspired handling is your thing, you'll find your needs best served by the more athletic talents of the Mazda 3 or Honda Civic.
I'll leave it at that.
#84 of 176 Re: Sure. [iomatic]
Jun 19, 2007 (12:24 pm)
Jun 19, 2007 (12:36 pm)
I drove both the 07 Si & Spec V, & took both of them on the identical 270 degree Interstate merge. Both cars did just fine - again, I don't drive on the edge. The Si tracks a little better - I could feel the back end of the Spec V sliding just a tad. However, for my driving style, I wouldn't notice the small difference between the cars on the skid pad. Yes, I bought the Spec V, but it was close. Either car would have been fine for me - just like the Spec V just a little better. If you want to know the final deciding points, see my earlier post.
#86 of 176 Re: Sure. [iomatic]
Jun 19, 2007 (1:41 pm)
That sounds very anti-spec v anyway so that can be debunked as biased. This from a car site that drives $100,000+ cars heh. I hope Honda pays them alot of money to write that mess even though that is a very poor quality review. Instead of boiling it down and saying exactly what they think is wrong with it they write that stuff. I don't own the new thing, don't care what they say about the frog chassis. Spec V is better regardless, nuff said. Get over it.
#87 of 176 Re: Sure. [james31278]
Jun 20, 2007 (5:11 am)
Believe it or not, most review sites are not into the whole conspiracy thing. They write the way they feel about the car at the time. It always amused me when I would watch videos on Edmunds' Inside Line when they started w/ the Buick Lucerne ads - because if you read Edmunds' review of the Lucerne, they basically tossed it into the discard pile as junk.
Other than being convinced to review a model, editorials would lose all of their credibility if they were offering paid advertisements instead of personal reviews. And it would become grossly evident in this day and age when everyone is under scrutiny. If you want to see an example of users giving the 'what-for' against 'biased' organizations - go look up the HD-DVD key or the Dell "Confessions" incidents. And for the argument that car people might not be as technically inclined as nerds (as my previous examples may imply), I think the fact that we're all capable of using the internet and doing our own research should be good enough.
#88 of 176 Re: Sure. [vviley]
Jun 20, 2007 (5:53 am)
They are biased believe it or not. This guy expects everyone to accept these dumbassed reviews blindly and go Civic. Get real. It's not good enough. Moving on to another discussion. Their reviews suck, nuff said.
#89 of 176 Re: Sure. [james31278]
Jun 20, 2007 (6:15 am)
Then what reviews should we be seeking out instead?
#90 of 176 Re: Sure. [vviley]
Jun 20, 2007 (6:31 am)
Why, ones that praise the Spec V, of course! Those are the only ones that wouldn't be biased, doncha know.
#92 of 176 Re: oh man! [eldaino]
Jun 20, 2007 (6:50 am)
first of all, wiley and iomatic; excellent posts.
The one thing i think you are missing james is this; this is a forum for the NEW spec v vs THE NEW si.
and since we have plenty of info of which car is the sharper handler, i guess that leaves that question answered.
Will anyone ever compare your year spec v to the new si? no probably not. which means we can only go back and look at previous reviews for the nissan and compare them to the si.
I'm sure the spec v is quick, there is not doubting that. But lets forget bias for a minute (since you think there is too much of it from anyone who dislikes the sentra, which makes no sense, seeing as how thats about the biggest bias i've ever seen.), and just gon on numbers/reviews.
It seems pretty obvious that while styling is out the window, the new spec v's chassis is superior and puts out better HANDLING (notice i did not say acceleration?) numbers than the old spec v. If thats the case, how do you think that the old spec v would fare against a new si, which posts better handling numbers than even the new sentra se-r?
You prefer torque, some prefer handling. and to you anyone elses opinion or facts mean nothing.
i like the se-r, but the si is simply the better handler, and it has BEEN PROVEN. have you driven the si? i have not driven the spec v, but i'm not making assumptions that are as sure and intense as yours.
james, no one likes a fan boy, but you can at least admit to it. Nuff said.