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Sedans Nissan Sentra Nissan Sentra Spec V vs Honda Civic Si
176 messages, Last post on Mar 02, 2009 at 5:53 PM
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Replying to: jd10013 (Aug 24, 2007 5:42 pm) a six speed manual accord comes with enough performance to justify the name, even if it doesn't compete with a porsche. and what about the nsx? its a bonefide gt-r murderer. honda may not have as much performance vehicles as nissan does, but considering only the se-r and 350 carry the name, its only 2 cars.
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Replying to: eldaino (Aug 27, 2007 8:01 am) But even still, the s2k is a 2.2 liter 237 HP car. not even in the same class as the Z, or the skyline. and considering the 6spd manual accord with the v6 can't even keep up with the like optioned altima, I wouldn't consider it high performance. Not that any family sedan really is to me. Don't get the wrong Idea, honda builds nice cars. I own one myself. But I do believe the other offerings from nissan in the performance department are the reason they hold back a little with the spec V. Nissan, going all the way back to the original 240's has always been at the forefront of performance. and right now its just the spec V and 350Z. but the skyline is on its way, and the new 400z will be here in a year or so. that one will probaly be the car to compete with the Si, as it will be a smaller, cheaper, and lower performance twin to the 350z. everything is kind of hush hush about it now, but the test mules have been spotted a few times.
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Replying to: eldaino (Aug 27, 2007 7:59 am) |
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Replying to: jd10013 (Aug 27, 2007 9:23 am) 
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Replying to: iomatic (Aug 28, 2007 12:33 pm)  that says something: when nissan HAS to discount the performance version to get it sold. (the vehicle i mentioned has been on the lot for about 4 months.)
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Replying to: jd10013 (Aug 27, 2007 9:21 am) i take it you are one of these people who likes hp numbers and not actual performance times right? IF i'm not mistaken, not only does the s2k handle better than the z, its quicker if not only slightly behind it 0-60 and through the quater mile. and considering the 6spd manual accord with the v6 can't even keep up with the like optioned altima, I wouldn't consider it high performance. proof? again, thats what the NEW accord is for...and even so, the old accord is not left in the dust or anything...again if it IS behind, its MARGINALLY behind. That does NOT consitute 'can't keep up'.  and remember....to get a six speed manual altima, you had to pony up the extra dough for an SE_R model. (it was rather nice though!) But I do believe the other offerings from nissan in the performance department are the reason they hold back a little with the spec V this logic makes no sense...people shopping for a sporty compact USUALLY are not cross shopping a 30k roadster/coupe. They are made to appeal to different markets, nissan is not 'holding' back on the spec v: its the most powerful one they have ever built. The si is just a sharper car. all we have proven is that nissan offers 2 dedicated 'sporty' cars:the z and the se-r. and honda does the same. |
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Replying to: eldaino (Aug 28, 2007 12:55 pm) do you. say what you want, the s2k will not run with the Z. 237 hp is no match for the for the VQ. hell, the altima has 270. Its not like we're talikg 20 or 30 hp difference. you taling about a difference of 70 hp. proof? again, thats what the NEW accord is for...and even so, the old accord is not left in the dust or anything...again if it IS behind, its MARGINALLY behind. That does NOT consitute 'can't keep up'. and remember....to get a six speed manual altima, you had to pony up the extra dough for an SE_R model. (it was rather nice though!) If you want proof of the altima being faster than the accord, just look it up. There is a reason nissans VQ engine has been in wards top 10 list for 10 years now. the new accord, with a few more HP but a lot more size and weight will probably have slower times than the 07. and there is no se- altima. But once again, its a moot point. just as I dont consider the family sedan accord a "performance car" neither do I consider the family sedan Altima a "performance car". this logic makes no sense...people shopping for a sporty compact USUALLY are not cross shopping a 30k roadster/coupe. They are made to appeal to different markets, nissan is not 'holding' back on the spec v: its the most powerful one they have ever built. The si is just a sharper car. It makes perfect sense. Nissan still want's to keep the sentra a sedan, with more passendger and cargo room. You can't even get it in a coupe like the Si. Another part of the reason is because nissan is developing an entry level sports car bassed on the urge concept car. Its going to be a rear wheel drive 20-25k small sports car targeting 18-25 year old males. Now what car do you think that will compete with? If they build it, they have to have some separation between it and the spec V. so with that in the works, why redesing the sentra spec V much different from the regular sentra at this point, or rather, at the point the new 07 was designed? all we have proven is that nissan offers 2 dedicated 'sporty' cars:the z and the se-r. nissan will have four. the Z (which is getting a redesign for 2009), the GT-r, the sentra ser-r spec V, and the new yet unnammed entry level sports car.
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Replying to: iomatic (Aug 28, 2007 12:33 pm) How true. nissan really messed up with the 2007 redesign. from the base model all the way up to spec V. |
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Replying to: eldaino (Aug 28, 2007 12:49 pm) but I think you get the wrong Idea man. I've never declared the spec v the superior vehicle, or better vehicle, or best vehicle or anything else. |
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Replying to: jd10013 (Aug 28, 2007 3:03 pm) Anyway that, and the tracks, are missing in the comparison.
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