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#113 of 795 2003 VW convertible Beetle - Transmission Valve Body replaced
Nov 23, 2009 (7:39 pm)
Well, I seem to be experiencing the same type of issues as everyone else here. My 6spd auto beetle ran over a block of wood several months ago and the transmission started playing up a month or so later. The garage, who have serviced it since new, said the transmission sump was damaged, and this was repaired by my insurance company. However this did not resolve the transmission issues and we took it back to the garage multiple times with jerky changes, flaring etc. eventually we told them we would not take it home until they found what the problem was. Finally a mechanic took it for a drive and experienced it for himself. The phoned me and said that we had to accept a $1000 charge to take the transmission apart and look at it, which we did. We had purchased a mechanical warranty on the car so it should have been covered whether it was accidental damage or a mechanical issue.
When it was taken apart the accident assessor looked and said, no, it was not a result of the original accident. So we lodged a claim with the Mechanical Insurance Company. We had the repair done while waiting for them to make up their minds on the claim....the valve body was replaced at a cost of $6450 (New Zealand Dollars) and the car is running perfectly again.
the problem is that the mechanical insurers have turned down the claim as they say it was caused by the original accident and the accident insurers have come back today and said that this is a known and common problem with VW Beetles so it is not a result of the accident.....very frustrating and we are out of pocket severely.
How often does the valve body fail?
We now have to take both insurance companies to the Insurance Ombudsman here and get them to sort it out, which could take months.
#114 of 795 Re: 2003 VW convertible Beetle - Transmission Valve Body replaced [kirstiem]
Nov 23, 2009 (8:27 pm)
I would still file a claim with the National Transportation Safety Board too. Sorry to hear about this and best of luck!
#115 of 795 Re: New Beetle transmission problems/PLEASE READ [trannybugsme]
Nov 25, 2009 (6:08 am)
If you are engaging in a class action suit against VW regarding their POC car, especially the transmission, please count us in. We have an '05 new beetle convertible 6 spd AT tiptronic which suddenly developed the shifting problems I have been reading about. Dealer, who treated us like pariahs and POS's, tried to tell us first it was a computer module that "learned" how the driver drove and adjusted the transmission to each driver. Too bad I wasn't wearing my hip boots at the time. Then he tried to tell us the transmission simply had too many miles on it at 82K miles. My response was that we have an '87 Pontiac Firebird at home which is getting ready to turn 400K miles and runs just fine. After that they left us sitting for over 90 minutes, ignoring us and hoping we would go away. The car is such a piece of junk VW did not even want to take it in trade on a new vehicle. VW corporate was no help either, just a "we're sorry to hear that you're having problems". The dealer did offer to rebuild the transmission for $6K, but we sort of figured he was just going to drop it out and put in a replacement. Bottom line, we have been telling everyone who will listen what a supreme POC this car is and what a myth the legendary German engineering is also.
I have also in the last few days written to our entire congressional delegation (house and senate) as well as the NTSB and CPSC asking why there has not been any government pressure to force a recall on an automobile which is obviously dangerous. My wife was nearly killed when her car stopped dead in the middle of a left turn at an extremely busy intersection one day. After fifteen seconds it decided to move again, but by then the lights had changed and she found herself charging into oncoming traffic; of course, she had no other place to go, couldn't stay where she was and couldn't back up.
We bought this car two years ago used, and I cannot tell you how many problems, major and minor, we have had with it. Just to list a few:
1. Front bumper passenger side air bag sensor corroded out.
2. Battery replacement is a major pain/expense.
3. Front running lights in bumper skirt fell out.
4. Right front wheel well skirt fell out at speed, causing wife to almost lose control of vehicle.
5. Left rear power window fell apart internally and will not shut/operate (this only costs $700).
6. Front seat belt force response sensors went bad and had to be replaced.
7. Floor mat locks broke, causing floor mats to slide up under brake pedal and accelerator.
8. Rear ashtray/cupholder assembly fell out, shorting out the rear lighter wiring harness in the process. Very exciting for the rear seat passengers at the time.
9. Don't get me started about the cup holders for the munchkins from Oz.
10. Right front headlight locking ring failed, causing assembly to fall out; fortunately was standing still at the time.
11. Transmission control module failed; had it replaced; but didn't solve the problem.
12. No way to check the transmission fluid; you have to take it to the dealer.
13. Transmission shift control failed; diagnosis called for transmission replacement.
So by all means please include us in any updates, correspondence, or whatever if you are going to pursue this. Everyone on this list serve should write to their congressional delegation, the local press, anyone who will listen, because the only thing VW is going to respond to is bad media coverage and government pressure. Maybe we should also all write to Ralph Nader.
#116 of 795 Re: New Beetle transmission problems/PLEASE READ [bubbaandrita]
Nov 25, 2009 (7:22 am)
This has been a very serious condition for many people. Someone on here mentioned a class action lawsuit however another person also mentioned that the only people who benefit from that are the lawyers. Idk, I will also write in to others that you have. Going to have to do alittle homework on that one. I think calling the local papter wouldnt be a bad idea either. People are spending money trying to fix something and these repair ppl act like they havent got a clue why it does this, Yet they do!!! That makes me so Mad. Taking are hard earned money and not fixing this problem!!! I also have a list of repairs I have done. Not only is the Transmission a HUGE expense but the interior was poorly made also, as you stated. Interior that peels!! Come on!!! Rediculas
#117 of 795 ATF Filter damage
Nov 30, 2009 (6:13 pm)
Still working through our issues with insurance coverage. The mechanical policy rejected the claim because the ATF Filter was damaged, which they maintain had to have been caused by the accidental damage to the sump as it could not have been caused by any other means.
Does anyone know of anyway that the ATF fillter can be damaged due to the underlying issues with the VW transmission?
The accident insurere is turning the claim down because of the kinown issues with VW Beetle transmissions, they are saying that the valve body problem we had is common and not caused by the accident.
The quote from the mechanical warranty assessor is
"The transmission pan was replaced due to being damaged, the transmission fluid was "very black and had a strong odour. The ATF Filter was found to be damaged and this could only have been as a result of the damage to the sump and would have allowed contaminants to be washed through the valve body and internals of the transmission."
the original transmission pan replacement was covered under our accident insurance, but they are refusing to cover the subsequent transmission failure.
#118 of 795 I am working on drafting a letter
Nov 30, 2009 (8:07 pm)
to VW, probably directing it to the owner of the local VW dealership as well as US top dog. After reading through all of these posts and almost getting rear ended today because my baby couldn't decide which gear to choose -- something has to give. I don't have $6,800 for a new transmission. I don't think I should need a new transmission at 80,000 miles. Especially considering my car has only been serviced by my VW dealership. It would seem that any problem resulting in something as traumatic as a new transmission should have been foretold by something that they should have seen.
Arrfgghhhh. After I've composed my letter, I'll set up a facebook group and post here to let everyone know. This is absolutely ridiculous. Surely, if we all start screaming, someone will hear us before one of us is seriously hurt.
#119 of 795 Going to See What The Dealer Says
Dec 02, 2009 (4:41 am)
I know I am crazy, but I am going to take my wife's 2003 Beetle to dealer in a few minutes. I have already filed my complaint, but I will get a quote for the repairs and repost. So far I have to agree, what a POS.
#120 of 795 Very Expensive to Fix - $6400 Quote from Gunter Mazda
Dec 03, 2009 (5:24 am)
Ok, here is my bad news, took it in, they had a quote by noon. Entire transmission plus additional parts, total, very close to $6400.
I bought this new for my wife off the showroom floor at the same place in 2004. It has 74000 miles on it. Hmm...I do not want to add the cost up per mile to have owned this POS.
Anyone have any ideas on how we can get some pressure applied....
#121 of 795 Re: Very Expensive to Fix - $6400 Quote from Gunter Mazda [scottivxx]
Dec 03, 2009 (7:31 am)
Wrote my congressmen too.....lot of good it will do.
#122 of 795 Did you hear?
Dec 03, 2009 (8:53 am)
I have posted several times about the trouble that I have had with my beetle. I am hoping to trade it off this weekend because I can not take another day of wondering if I a going to get hit in this stupid car that I paid dearly for. But to my point. I live in North Georgia and I heard some news this morning. I believe the Beetle is going to be discontinued from VW in the next year or so. I don't know if this is good or bad for us beetle owners. But if I am not mistaken, they are only going to make 3,000 (1500 couple and 1500 convertiable) in the light blue (which is the color I have) when they discontinue them. Let me know if anyone else has heard this news.