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Re: Seeking AWD Limited 411 [wheelie1]
by winedogs
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Aug 09, 2007 (4:45 am)
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Replying to: wheelie1 (Aug 08, 2007 7:51 pm)
Live in Pittsburgh, saw a couple Limiteds with AWD earlier, but they are scarce now. I am waiting for the 08 version, since many options in the 07 will become standard in the Limited 08 edition. Hopefully there will also be incentives or better financing?
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- #214 of 768
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Re: Seeking AWD Limited 411 [wheelie1]
by hiestand
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Aug 09, 2007 (4:56 am)
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Replying to: wheelie1 (Aug 08, 2007 7:51 pm)
You're right about no Black LTD AWD w/Ult.available. (Unless you like the Saddle leather) It's been over 2 weeks since I put my money down on the 07 VC LTd, AWD w/ Ultimate pkg. in Black Diamond. I was told they found my car but the dealer where the car is won't trade. I was asked to give our dealer a few more days to negotiate, but it's doubtful we'll get it. At this point I told my dealer I'd wait for the '08. He told me they would make a special order for me as soon as the orders can be taken. Again, the HyundaiUSA PR rep in CA told me over the phone 2 weeks ago the prices for the '08 VC will be set in "about 1- 2 weeks". After those prices are set, then orders can be taken. No Navigation systems until after January.
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- #215 of 768
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Re: Seeking AWD Limited 411 [hiestand]
by wheelie1
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Aug 09, 2007 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: hiestand (Aug 09, 2007 4:56 am)
Very frustrating experience. I've had a similar experience with dealers not willing to trade. I guess thats what happens with a model in short supply that sells well. I wan't the saddle leather and dealers out east can't locate anything (except demos).
I recently went to a Mazda dealer to test drive the CX-9 (sweet engine, cramped 2nd & 3rd rows) and was told a similar story. All the dealers assumed buyers would mostly want the mid-range models so they mostly ordered those, but buyers wanted the loaded models so there was a shortage. They switched ordering priorities for the '08s and I'm sure Hyundai will do the same.
I'd prefer the AWD, but I'll go ahead w/the FWDs if I have to. I need to wrap this up this month and the '08s probably won't show up for another couple of months. I'm also concerned the '08s will have fewer dealer incentives since they're just coming out and the supply will still be tight as demand rises with increased marketing exposure. The next window to save $ probably won't be 'till the holidays (dec.)
Will you be paying full price for the '08?
Who's the PR rep you communicated with at HyundaiUSA? Do you have direct contact info?
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- #216 of 768
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Re: Is there no one buying Veracruzes out there? [wheelie1]
by nxs138
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Aug 09, 2007 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: wheelie1 (Aug 08, 2007 7:43 pm)
The ones on the local dealer's lot have been sitting there for two months. Don't remember which trim they are. I don't see too many of them here in Pittsburgh, they don't really stand out when you do see one driving down the road. I also think that they priced it too high for what you get (after all, GMC Acadias are flying off the lots, and they offer more for a similar price--don't think the public is buying into this Lexus comparison)
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- #217 of 768
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2008 Veracruz Limited
by carchex
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Aug 09, 2007 (11:13 am)
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Heard the 2008 Hyundai Limited FWD priced at $34,050 (invoice 31,577) + Deliv. Cheaper than 2007 with Ultimate Pkg  35,255 (32,655). Of course you give up DVD and sound gizmos previously included in ULim. Should be in late Sept
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- #218 of 768
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Re: Is there no one buying Veracruzes out there? [nxs138]
by wheelie1
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Aug 09, 2007 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Aug 09, 2007 10:46 am)
I agree the Acadias are selling well. It's a handsome design, but I'm not so sure they offer "more" for a similar price. Acadia's have an advantage in terms of overall space and they have a navagation option the Veracruz lacks, but an Edmund price comparison shows that the difference in invoice price with equally matched features (no nav.) shows the Acadia is $1,351 higher than the Veracruz. Plus add in the generous Hyundai warranty and reliability rankings and the value proposition increases. Unless dealers are offering rock bottom deals which I would be suprised to see since they are selling so well, I give the pricing and value advantage to the Veracruz. I'm also not interested in Navigation and the dimensions of the Veracruz is just right for me.
Also most folks I talk to have never even heard of the Veracruz which doesn't suprise me since there's been very little promotion. I see more ads for the Santa Fe and consequently a lot of Santa Fes on the road.
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- #219 of 768
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Re: 2008 Veracruz Limited [carchex]
by wheelie1
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Aug 09, 2007 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: carchex (Aug 09, 2007 11:13 am)
Where did you get your pricing info?
I've got a quote for a black '07 Limited FWD/Ultimate Package/Premium leather for $32,750 (deliv. included). My thinking is given the quoted price which does include the DVD won't be cheaper on the '08
Am I wrong?
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- #220 of 768
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Re: Is there no one buying Veracruzes out there? [wheelie1]
by nxs138
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Aug 09, 2007 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: wheelie1 (Aug 09, 2007 3:40 pm)
If you go over on the Acadia forums, you will see that many people are ending up paying near invoice, and in surprisingly many cases, below invoice (due to rebates).
So the value proposition for the Veracruz is a bit diluted, since the price advantage isn't all that great, especially for a Hyundai. You get a bigger vehicle with the Acadia, the ability to get a NAV, those big dual sunroofs that people seem to like, all for just a bit more than the Veracruz. But what people really seem to like is the bigger size, hence "more".
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- #221 of 768
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Re: Is there no one buying Veracruzes out there? [nxs138]
by carbuyer11
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Aug 09, 2007 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Aug 09, 2007 4:46 pm)
I don't understand your "especially for a Hyundai" comment. Since when is GMC considered an elite brand?? Have you checked reliability ratings for GMC on Consumer Reports? While the Acadia looks like a nicely finished vehicle (although it could stand to go on a diet- read any car mag's review of the Acadia or it's blood-brothers), I didn't even give it a consideration when purchasing the Hyundai. Why? Because of GM's history of reliability. They've improved but not enough for me to spend my hard-earned money on one of their vehicles. Haven't own an American brand in 27 years. Not about to start now.
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- #222 of 768
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Re: Is there no one buying Veracruzes out there? [carbuyer11]
by nxs138
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Aug 09, 2007 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: carbuyer11 (Aug 09, 2007 5:52 pm)
Just to make things clear: I'm not trying to look down on Hyundai, just giving a reason why the Veracruz might not be as popular as the Acadia.
Hyundai kinda pigeon-holed itself into being the company that offers a similar quality car at a lesser price. When you read the forums, many people believe the Veracruz should be much cheaper than the Acadia, CX-9, or the new Highlander--hence the comment "especially for a Hyundai".
Plain and simple, the Acadia hit a right note with buyers: it's chunky, just like a standard SUV, but offers reasonable mpg and is big as a whale, the latter appealing to the standard SUV crowd. I think the Veracruz is getting lost in the mix--maybe a more aggressive front-end might make it more noticeable, as well as a more aggressive marketing campaign?
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