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Re: 300 mile review [bobw3] by ateixeira
Oct 01, 2007 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 28, 2007 5:37 pm)

Gearing is the secret.
 
Fact is, in the city the WRX will probably do better, as long as you're not pushing it in to the boost all day long.
 
Out on the highway, though, it will be geared for immediate response. A large displacement V6 can be geared taller.
 
An extreme example is the 2004 Subaru Forester XT, which had (IIRC) 4.77 gears, i.e. very short. 0-60 came in 5.3 seconds in a C&D test, which is quicker than the Lamborghini Countache 5000S supercar.
 
Not surprisingly mileage reports were terrible - people complained loudly and were only going 250 miles per tankful.
 
Subaru relaxed the gearing, I think for MY2006. It's not as quick, but now you can go 300+ miles per tank.
 
The gas tank is rather small, at just 15.9 gallons.
 
Imagine if you could pick your final drive ratio, what gear would you choose? Power or economy? It's very tough to have both.
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Re: 300 mile review [bobw3] by aaykay
Oct 01, 2007 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 28, 2007 9:13 am)

Are you certain that the Ford Freestyle gets 20 City/26 hwy ? A neighbor of ours had one and I think he mentioned that the best he could manage in over 12,000 miles, was around 23mpg on an all hwy trip. He was lucky if he could manage 14-15mpg in the city.
 
Are we talking about the same vehicle ? He is certainly not someone I would classify as a lead foot.
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Re: 300 mile review [aaykay] by ateixeira
Oct 01, 2007 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: aaykay (Oct 01, 2007 12:10 pm)

The EPA rated it 20/27 for FWD, 19/24 with AWD (per ConsumerGuide June 2006).
 
That's before the EPA would have adjusted numbers down for 2008 (instead the Taurus X replaced it, with a new powertrain).
 
The mileage threads over there have wild variations, from as little as 15mpg all the way up to 30mpg and beyond.
 
As they say, YMMV. Consumer Guide got 18.7mpg. Consumer Reports was also in the teens, I forget exactly how much.
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Re: 300 mile review [aaykay] by bobw3
Oct 01, 2007 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: aaykay (Oct 01, 2007 12:10 pm)

I have a Freestyle with 58,000 miles FWD. My last tank was exactly 25mpg driving 75%hwy at 65mph & the rest suburbs. I've been close to 30mpg on long road trips 100%hwy, and my wife has seen 19mpg on 100% suburb, but generally it's in the low to mid 20s with mixed driving.
 
But I can see how performance cars would get less.
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EVO MR by paisan
Oct 01, 2007 (6:06 pm)
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Well for all the nay-sayers of the WRX not having an LSD. I just read C&D and it appears that the EVO MR will not even have a manual transmission! haaaa
 
So now you guys are free to rip on the tip-tronic super electronic EVO MR!
 
-mike
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Re: EVO MR [paisan] by lilengineerboy
Oct 01, 2007 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Oct 01, 2007 6:06 pm)

Well for all the nay-sayers of the WRX not having an LSD. I just read C&D and it appears that the EVO MR will not even have a manual transmission! haaaa
  
So now you guys are free to rip on the tip-tronic super electronic EVO MR!
  
-mike

 
Because one thing sucks doesn't mean there aren't worse alternatives. Mitsubishi doesn't seem long for the US anyway.
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Re: EVO MR [lilengineerboy] by xyzzer
Oct 01, 2007 (9:33 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Oct 01, 2007 6:53 pm)

I would not laugh about EVO. It looks better - not like MazdaSpeed, which the Subie looks like, but a bit like a more aggresive Volvo.
Also, the transmission might be SEMI-automatic, but it's got the twin clutch, plus automatic is GOOD in traffic. I learned about that when I switched back to manual on the new WRX.
I would not buy an Evo today anyways, since I need the cargo capacity of my WRX hatch.
 
As You can see I fit into a bucket of people who want an all-in-one car, in which case the new WRX is a nice fit for me.
If I had double the money I got I might get a Prius for everyday milage and cargo and an Evo a a cool-looking AWD sports car for fun driving and AutoX.
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Re: EVO MR [xyzzer] by paisan
Oct 02, 2007 (1:30 am)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Oct 01, 2007 9:33 pm)

The Twin-clutch automatics are still not quite there yet. IIRC, the VW with it hasn't really caught on yet.
 
As for looks, that's 100% subjective so I won't comment on that. (looks like a hopped up galant from about 2 generations ago IMHO)
 
I just find it funny that people were ripping on the WRX for having traction control and ABLS, yet it still has a real transmission, whereas the latest and greatest EVO is essentially an automatic...
 
-mike
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Re: EVO MR [paisan] by tiff_c
Oct 02, 2007 (1:58 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Oct 01, 2007 6:06 pm)

Well for all the nay-sayers of the WRX not having an LSD. I just read C&D and it appears that the EVO MR will not even have a manual transmission! haaaa
So now you guys are free to rip on the tip-tronic super electronic EVO MR!
 
New WRX does not have a LSD and that's too bad, the EVO X will not initially ship with the paddle shifters, and does come with a more tuneable 5 spd which is what I would get if the price was right It's about $26K for the 5 spd in Japan. So if the Evo X has the 5 spd in the US (very unlikely) then i'd buy one. Having the dual clutch auto tranny is a way to sneak an automatic into the EVO so they can sell more cars. This is no secret as they state it in many articles I've read.
Subaru has said the same thing about the WRX. The STi is still under wraps but maybe it has a chance to really blast the EVO X. No way to know until they are driven hard in magazine comparison reviews. The older EVO MR's will be a veritable bargain now.
I can't blame Mitsubishi since they really are on their last legs and desperately need a saleable car. The big problem will be their dealers who will price gouge and drive up prices as the car will be hot for a while. That will drive away customers and in the end I think it won't work.
They really need good dealers and push the car out at a low price. If they can sell it in Japan for $26K they can sell it here for that as well.
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Re: EVO MR [tiff_c] by dino001
Oct 02, 2007 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Oct 02, 2007 1:58 am)

It's about $26K for the 5 spd in Japan
 
That's something I have hard time to believe in. US has effectively the lowest prices in the world - often by as much as 30-50%. The price may be real, just the config may be quite off what we get here.

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