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Offroad: WRX vs Outback? by xyzzer
Sep 24, 2007 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Sep 23, 2007 6:12 pm)

I just read in the manual of my new WRX, that all models except OUTBACK are not supposed to be driven offroad.
Now why is that? And do they mean Impreza Outback, or the regular Outback? What makes the difference? Why would they put info on the regular Outback in the WRX manual?
 
Ground clearance:
WRX: 5.9inch
I.O.: 6.1inch
Outback: 8.4inch
'05 I.O.: 6.3inch
 
Does not seem like a big difference (0.2inch) between the two Impreza models - maybe they mean the regular one? 2.5inch makes the difference.
 
Durability
Is the Outback or Impreza Outback more sturdy than the WRX? I guess Outback is longer and that could make it worse, but differences in the construction might be the issue here. I do not think there would be a difference between WRX and I.O. here. Unless the I.O. has better water sealing and the WRX with its turbo is more fragile here?
 
Wheels
Now the manual says "Do not drive on rough roads or over curbs in a vehicle that has 17 inch or other ultra-low-profile tires". That is exactly what all new Imprezas seem to carry, but so does the Outback (albeit a bit different 17 inch...). The manual also states that tire chains cannot be used on P205/50R17 tires (because of lack of tire/fender clearance) and this is what is carried by both the Impreza models. I have bought the chains for the old Impreza Outback, but have never used them. I wonder if it was right to use it back then or if I could use them now...
 
Legal stuff
Probably they are just protecting themselves. Of course the Outbacks might be a little bit better suited for rough roads, but the difference does not seem significant.
 
Now I have driven the '05 Impreza Outback through some rough country roads in Oregon and through some shallow streams without any issues. I guess my new WRX could do as well, but still I am a bit afraid. The 0.4 inch difference might not be much alone, but together with the longer wheelbase (105.1 vs. 99.4) I might just get stuck in places where previously I just made it...
 
Seems like the new care might be just a bit more civilized than the old barbarian...
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Re: 300 mile review [xyzzer] by xyzzer
Sep 24, 2007 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Sep 23, 2007 6:12 pm)

Hmmm... forgot to add that I like the additional airbags in the new WRX...
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Re: 300 mile review [xyzzer] by lilengineerboy
Sep 24, 2007 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Sep 24, 2007 8:55 am)

Hmmm... forgot to add that I like the additional airbags in the new WRX...
 
Don't test them.
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Re: Mineral vs. Synthetic [dino001] by ateixeira
Sep 24, 2007 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: dino001 (Sep 24, 2007 3:27 am)

My guess is Subaru will follow the rest of the industry - recommend synthetic will increase their TCO (maintenance costs) compared to other manufacturers.
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Re: Offroad: WRX vs Outback? [xyzzer] by ateixeira
Sep 24, 2007 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Sep 24, 2007 8:42 am)

I wouldn't take either one too far. Get a Forester (and some skid plates) if you want to do that.
 
Forester also has a tiny bit of extra room for bigger tires.
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additions by jeffmc
Sep 24, 2007 (7:56 pm)
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couple things to add to the conversation:
 
1. My Subaru dealer always uses synthetic... I didn't have to ask for it.
 
2. I bet the approach/departure angles on the '08 Impreza are a smidge better than the previous gen Outback Sport... especially at the rear. Also, are they saying not to be driven "off road" or "off pavement"? WRX should be fine off pavement, gravel roads & whatnot... just watch the clearance, right? Off road, though? ... nah.
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Re: additions [jeffmc] by paisan
Sep 24, 2007 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: jeffmc (Sep 24, 2007 7:56 pm)

Yeah it's a grey area. Having done lots of different types of "off-roading", I can say that for the general public, I wouldn't suggest taking any of the cars with low-profile tires offroad, even on gravel roads and whatnot. Why? Cause most folks will drive them improperly in those situations, especially totally off-road.
 
During the 48hrs of Tri-state we hit up the pine barrens in NJ and an un-improved road in upstate NY. We were going at a rather slow pace that someone who is used to driving on-road would say is too slow. Anything faster and we would have had dented rims, flat tires, and undercarriages that were scraped up.
 
So as with everything in the manual, take it with a grain of salt, mostly it's there to cover themselves from the general public's lack of knowledge.
 
-mike
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Re: Offroad: WRX vs Outback? [xyzzer] by dstew1
Sep 24, 2007 (8:54 pm)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Sep 24, 2007 8:42 am)

Considering it was an Impreza manual, I would assume they were referring specifically to the Impreza Outback. Why mention the regular Outback as offroad capable and not the Forester? That wouldn't make sense.
 
And it may be more of a suspension issue than a ground clearance issue. The I.O. is probably set up to deliver a more tolerable ride off-pavement, and probably allows for more vertical suspension travel.
 
Doug
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Re: Offroad: WRX vs Outback? [ateixeira] by dstew1
Sep 24, 2007 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 24, 2007 2:29 pm)

I wouldn't take either one too far. Get a Forester (and some skid plates) if you want to do that.
 
Primitive skid plates FTW
 

(sorry, shameless off-topic plug; however I'm sure Paul Eklund at Primitive will be making skid plates for the 08 Impreza as well)
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Mike, this Bud's for you! by rsholland
Sep 26, 2007 (5:24 am)
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JAPRIX has taken a new WRX on as a project car. Interesting in that it has been fitted with huge 255/40x17 tires (Falken Azenis RT-615) mounted on Enkei RC-T4 17x8 rims with a +48 offset, and there has been no fender rubbing (that I'm aware of).
 
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1345177
 
Bob

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