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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [volkov]
by ateixeira
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Sep 21, 2007 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Sep 21, 2007 10:41 am)
Well, a compact SUV should cost more than a compact hatch/wagon. It's bigger.
Sporty cars cost more, that's fair. WRX is a compact with ownership costs on par with mainstream mid-sizers.
You gotta pay to play.
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- #929 of 1480
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Re: continue [dino001]
by volkov
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Sep 21, 2007 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Sep 21, 2007 8:04 am)
However, if one drives it the way it is "meant" be driven - one should be be prepared for more than that.
Yes, driving it the way "it's meant to be driven" on public roads means you are breaking the law. Legal costs and traffic fines are significantly higher.
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- #930 of 1480
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [ateixeira]
by volkov
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Sep 21, 2007 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 21, 2007 10:43 am)
Actually the CR-V was cheaper, so insurance as % of purchase price was lower for the WRX.
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- #931 of 1480
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Re: continue [volkov]
by rsholland
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Sep 21, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Sep 21, 2007 10:46 am)
LOL! I guess I must be a "wuss driver" then, as no tickets—so far...
Bob
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- #932 of 1480
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Re: continue [rsholland]
by volkov
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Sep 21, 2007 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Sep 21, 2007 1:19 pm)
No tickets here either, but that is partly more luck than anything. For the most part I stay off boost - saves on gas and prevents rear-ending the guy in front of me. Still, my hesitation in moving up to the STi is that I have a hard enough time behaving in the WRX and I don't have access to a local track. What I do have is hundreds of miles of nearby gravel and logging roads - better suited for the WRX and lots of legal fun.
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- #933 of 1480
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Re: continue [volkov]
by flamb
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Sep 21, 2007 (9:55 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Sep 21, 2007 2:12 pm)
Expect everything will be more, premium gas, maintenance,and insurance... I am from Vancouver, insurance is very very high, it's a reap off here. I am driving a Acura EL 1998, every year the car insurance is CAD1600,even with the 40 percent discount, never gone down, it is just ridiculous ! So what is the rate up North. Regular maintenance is 8000 km or 10000 ? (Sorry guys we use km here) Thanks for all the infos
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [ateixeira]
by dino001
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Sep 22, 2007 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 21, 2007 10:43 am)
Sporty cars cost more, that's fair. WRX is a compact with ownership costs on par with mainstream mid-sizers
That's something I can finally agree with. As long as it's used in similar way and pattern, it can be compared to the midsize crowd.
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Re: continue [flamb]
by volkov
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Sep 23, 2007 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: flamb (Sep 21, 2007 9:55 pm)
Mine is about 1500 for the WRX here. I have the Roadstar discount. Regular maintenance beyond oil change is not that frequent. I'd have to check my manual for the actual numbers.
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- #936 of 1480
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Went yesterday to see it
by dino001
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Sep 23, 2007 (5:38 pm)
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Local salesman called me about GTP, checking if I wanted something. I told him I didn't plan to, but "since you called..." . So I went yesterady and drove new WRX. Of course this dealeship is so fussy about driving any turbos that I can see why they can't sell too many, but it's another issue. All I could see was oboviously increadible pickup at lower gears. Hard to gage an actual turbo lag, but it probably was small. Suspension and steering feedback feels OK, but I'd rather have mine.
But the rest, hm... How to put it mildly. Oh, I know - the word is "unimpressive". The "sebring" grill is not as horrible as on pictures, rear clear lights are. Beauty it is not - that's for sure. Interior is a few years behind - AGAIN. It's a freaking new model and it looks old already . Radio looks like built in 1998, climate control dials are recycled from '05+ (or at least similar), color scheme is depressing. It would be a blast on my 2003, but in 2007 it is just sad. I don't get it - they obviously know how to do nice interiors (Outback, Tribeca) - so why oh why would that get us such a bore - AGAIN?
The car simply doesn't deliver. It may be fine for what it wants to be, although I doubt it will stay at the sticker for very long. It is just not for me - I want more - not in horsepower - I want more features and I want nicer interior. A3 or MS3 are coming in mind for this class. Not enough features, not enough size, not enough refinement and styling -well, we already said what we think.
So - compared to my '03 it certainly is and improvement, but even 2.5 grand GTP overallowance on my trade did not make me think (let alone make) a switch. I admit, large part of it had less to do with the actual vehicle, as I simply am not very thrilled about idea of an Impreza-sized car for my replacement. However, with Legacy gone and Outback being too far off what I look for, it was next almost last hope for Subaru to sell me something. The hope is nearly gone. Never say never, but if couple of grand can't sway me, I don't know what can. STI, perhaps? Resurection of Legacy wagon? Real Ltd. trim on WRX? Who knows. I a tree fell on my car today and I had buy a new car now, Subaru has no vehicle for me.
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300 mile review
by xyzzer
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Sep 23, 2007 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: dino001 (Sep 23, 2007 5:38 pm)
I don't know, but with the satellite navigation and full climate control it feels as good or better than my friend's BMW (without the GPS). Sure, mine is missing the Bluetooth mic and maybe the remote engine start, but probably these could be fixed.
I think the A3 is more expensive for the same features and MS3 is not AWD. I also think Subie has higher ground clearance - better when driving through some mountain roads.
My review after a couple more miles...
Driving experience: awesome
Fuel economy: 17.7mpg in the first 280 miles (mostly in the city), about 26mpg in the recent 40 miles mostly on highway
Annoyances:
Driver's mirror remote is far away under the steering wheel (to make place for the bottle holder?)
Can't raise the passanger's seat, so my wife can barely look out the window when I'm driving
Looks like Mazdaspeed 3
Missing Bluetooth mic (maybe could be added as accessory some day?)
Missing remote engine start (could be added as accessory today?)
The navigation system seems to react slowly at times when you tab the screen/press buttons or even sometimes seems to hang
The navigation system is setup to not allow typing in addresses (or watching movies?) while driving
The navigation system is missing plenty of important places around here (IKEA and the nearest Whole Foods from what I noticed already)
Has more power than You need - result - less mpg, requires a feather foot (you won't even notice when you are well above the speed limit with a lead one)
Great improvements (over my '05 Impreza Outback):
Bottle holders and wide pockets in the doors
Pockets in the backs of the front seats
More space in the (hatch)back
Looks great in Lightning Red (the dark grey I test drove looked nice too and so does the black on the pictures)
Looks better IMHO than MS3 - not worse than a BMW
Unlimited power
The navigation system is great even despite some quirks - has a lot of popular local locations
The climate control works great
Power and audio connectors for the Zune under the armrest
Front seats are more comfortable
I like the new interior
Will think of adding more stuff later...
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