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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [jeffmc]
by xyzzer
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Sep 18, 2007 (11:06 pm)
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Replying to: jeffmc (Sep 18, 2007 10:49 pm)
I love the color, although I would still prefer orange (I have seen something like an orange 2005 Subaru Impreza Outback - a beauty).
That's the fully loaded version, so I guess the surround sound IS SRS Circle Surround Automotive. No iPod kit and would not be useful, since I'm a Zuner (i just keep it under my elbow - there are now power and audio connectors there)
Not sure about the body roll - it seems stiffer than my old Impreza Outback, but I have not driven the old WRXes. It feels good enough. I might check it out on AutoX one day. The old one did roll a bit...
As for the ride... hmmmm... it is sporty 
The buying experience was hard. I was dreaming of a WRX/STI Impreza but was not thinking I could afford one. I was picking up my old 2005 Impreza Outback after it was fixed and wanted to test drive the new WRX. A guy at Bellevue Chaplin's Subaru wanted to sell it badly and spent 5 hours talking me into this and negotiating the deal. I left with the deal to pick up the car the next day and an option to cancel everything. Next day I checked with Eastside Subaru and they went down with the price a bit plus gave nice discounts on extended warranty, gap, northwest package and free oil changes for life. Overall it is hard to say what price I paid, because I traded in the old car. On paper it looked like the old car (2005 Impreza Outback Sport, black, auto, 45k miles) was valued at 13500 and I got the new one at about 29500 + warranties, protections, gap, etc. The guy from Chaplin's was really mad when he found out. Especially that they virtually stole the car from their parking lot when it was ready waiting for me to pick up.
Can't compare it to anything I have driven before. I would leave that to the pros. My satisfaction is huge. 
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [xyzzer]
by ateixeira
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Sep 19, 2007 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Sep 18, 2007 10:33 pm)
Glad to hear the NAV works even without a Satellite signal.
My Garmin is pretty hopeless without a signal. Great otherwise, though.
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [xyzzer]
by rsholland
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Sep 19, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Sep 18, 2007 10:33 pm)
The navigation is pretty cool. Actually even with no satellites in sight it seems to manage by just checking the speed and direction.
How can it work without a satelllite?
Bob
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [rsholland]
by ateixeira
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Sep 19, 2007 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Sep 19, 2007 7:28 am)
It has yaw sensors and a speedo, so it can tell if you continue in one direction.
Good example - driving under a tunnel. I actually recall the 2006 loaner I had didn't lose signal and freak out driving through Baltimore the way a portable does.
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [ateixeira]
by rsholland
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Sep 19, 2007 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 19, 2007 7:31 am)
Interesting. Is that true for all/most built-in original equipment NAV units, and not true for for all/most portable aftermarket NAV units?
Bob
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [rsholland]
by ateixeira
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Sep 19, 2007 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Sep 19, 2007 7:36 am)
I'm not sure. But I did notice that even in the 2006 Tribeca.
That's often cited as one big advantage of built-in systems.
It may be inconsequential. When you're in a tunnel, you have nowhere to go but straight. You lose a signal, but so what, it's not like you can take a wrong turn and go swimming with the fishes. 
Still, it may annoy some people.
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [ateixeira]
by rsholland
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Sep 19, 2007 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 19, 2007 7:39 am)
But are tunnels the only place you might lose a signal? What if the satellite(s) are not in range for some reason? For example, I notice that from time-to-time I will lose an iTunes radio station on my MAC, and I have to switch stations in order to hear music. Can that happen with a GPS? Could it happen where you might have road choices open to you?
Bob
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [rsholland]
by ateixeira
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Sep 19, 2007 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Sep 19, 2007 7:54 am)
You get a weak signal if you are surrounded by high-rise buildings, but my Garmin can usually compensate.
I have an older model. It can take a little while to obtain the signal the first time. I don't have a problem with losing a signal once I get going though.
Besides a tunnel, I also lose signal in a covered garage, but again, I'm not relying on the GPS at that time.
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [ateixeira]
by xyzzer
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Sep 19, 2007 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 19, 2007 8:03 am)
The manual states:
"Self-contained navigation is a system that detects the vehicle's position by calculating the vehicle's driven distance and turning angle th(r)ough the use of various types of sensors that are mounted on the vehicle."
So the direction is detected by driving with the wheels turned as well and it works in the underground parking lots!
Of course not that you would need that, but there are underground parking lots where you could get lost and as people stated - you can lose the signal anywhere. If not for these anyway the positioning would not be so detailed and smooth - the GPS I have with my MapPoint tends to teleport me from place to place where the visibility is limited giving the annoying "off route" warnings...
I wonder what would it look like if I started drifting in that underground parking... 
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Re: 2008 WRX Pricing Questions [xyzzer]
by jeffmc
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Sep 19, 2007 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: xyzzer (Sep 18, 2007 11:06 pm)
A Zune user on the Eastside? What're the odds of that?! 
Hey, thanks for posting up your answers... good to read you're so satisfied w/your new WRX. From your videos, it looks like you had a lot of fun w/your Outback Sport, so this should be a real blast.
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