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#288 of 1480 Re: I think [stevecebu] by rsholland

Jul 05, 2007 (6:58 am)

Replying to: stevecebu (Jul 05, 2007 2:31 am)
Steve says: So Subaru can't figure out how with a brand new platform to squeeze a for more HP and torque out of the motor? C'mon it's a whole new platform with the old engine in it. I mean an Accord with 270HP and you can make it hook up better but even still it's way over the Subie and AWD has a weight penalty
 
I answered that a few posts back. rsholland, "2008 Subaru Impreza WRX" #273, 3 Jul 2007 1:12 pm
 
"Subaru maiden in distress"
 
LOL! I think not...
 
So are you first in line to buy a new one Bob? Already on the list?
 
I answered that a few posts back. rsholland, "2008 Subaru Impreza WRX" #269, 3 Jul 2007 11:53 am
 
Bob

#289 of 1480 Re: I think [aaykay] by rsholland

Jul 05, 2007 (7:31 am)

Replying to: aaykay (Jul 04, 2007 9:25 pm)
I think Subaru made a mistake in moving away from the 06/07 "corporate" grill, after having been panned for the nasty version of it in the Tribeca...in the 06/07 Impreza version, the grill looked really good.
 
Well here's something we can agree on. I've been a huge supporter of the 3-piece grille from day one. Yes, I would much rather have seen it carried over on to the '08 model, and to the complete Subaru lineup. Unfortunately you and I were in a minority here.
 
Bob

#290 of 1480 Re: I think [paisan] by aaykay

Jul 05, 2007 (7:31 am)

Replying to: paisan (Jul 05, 2007 5:08 am)
About the brakes, the jury is still out on that. My eyes clearly indicated that they were not the larger GT discs. We will have to wait for the actual specs to arrive.

#291 of 1480 Japan June sales by rsholland

Jul 05, 2007 (7:39 am)

Still very early results, but very encourging nonetheless.
 
Bob
 
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June 2007 sales in Japan:
 
Impreza made it to #23, with 3,576 units sold. this figure was 176% of last June's sales. Adjusted to a 30 day month, the sales would be 4,126 units.
 
The Legacy was #25, with 3,128 units sold (63.8%).
#1 was the Corolla again - 12,446 units.
#2: Toyota Vitz - 9,356
#3: Honda Fit - 8,306
#4: Nissan Serena - 6,711
#5: Toyota Passo - 6,669
#10: Nissan March - 4,948
#20: Nissan Cube - 4,383
#23: Subaru Impreza - 3,576
#25: Subaru Legacy - 3,128
#30: Honda Mobilio - 2,553
Toyota took 17 spots in the Top 30.
 
The Impreza figure is 43% above Subaru's monthly forecast (2,500/month).

#292 of 1480 Re: I think [rsholland] by stevecebu

Jul 05, 2007 (8:12 am)

Replying to: rsholland (Jul 05, 2007 6:58 am)
So are you first in line to buy a new one Bob? Already on the list?
 
I answered that a few posts back. rsholland, "2008 Subaru Impreza WRX" #269, 3 Jul 2007 11:53 am
 
Good to see you are putting forth your vote of confidence with zero financial investment Bob. I actually have to buy a car and have to spend the money and buy a car not armchair quarterback buying it.
Oh and as far as the brakes go we will see. One guy on here says they are smaller. One says they are bigger 2 pot versus 4 pot. yep, well let's see what the actual specs are. It won't help that it's the same engine as before with 224 HP. Better interior no LSD and same engine BUT the same price. Yeah I'm excited now!
Styling is subjective as is anything you won't actually plunk your hard earned green down on.
So Bob you won't be a potential customer for the new WRX like I will as it's just not in your plans, so how does all your gung ho support help Subaru when you don't buy the car you claim is so great?
I mean it'd be like me bragging up a Porsche having no real issue while others pointed out the flaws but I'm saying how great it is anyway when i have no intention of buying it in the first place. So it's great that you're a fan but me I am a potential buyer and my vote counts because it involves real money and that's a bit of profit for Subaru or some other company.
Glad you like the styling on a car you're not going to buy.

#293 of 1480 Re: I think [stevecebu] by rsholland

Jul 05, 2007 (8:31 am)

Replying to: stevecebu (Jul 05, 2007 8:12 am)
I'm not going to buy one right now. Maybe down the road...
 
You seem to feel that because you're "putting your money where your mouth is," that that your comments hold more value than mine, or anyone else who disagrees with you.
 
Since I'm a Co-Host of these Edmunds Subie forums, and have been involved with Subaru for over 10 years (currently own 3), as an owner and a member of the Edmunds Subaru community, I think I have every right to comment on whatever Subaru does.
 
You're relatively new to this forum, so you have no idea what I and others here have contributed to SOA in terms of ideas and influence over the past 10 years or so. Several of us have been invited to Subaru events, and have communicated directly with top SOA executives on what we think of their products. They've listened to us as several of their models reflect changes and improvements that I and others from Edmunds have suggested.
 
That's all the bragging I'm going to do about myself. I'm sure other long-time Edmunds people here can vouch for my credentials if need be. Glad your planning on spending some money with SOA. I'm sure they will appreciate it.
 
Bob

#294 of 1480 Re: I think [rsholland] by stevecebu

Jul 05, 2007 (8:44 am)

Replying to: rsholland (Jul 05, 2007 8:31 am)
Since I'm a Co-Host of these Edmunds Subie forums, and have been involved with Subaru for over 10 years (currently own 3), as an owner and a member of the Edmunds Subaru community, I think I have every right to comment on whatever Subaru does.
 
Yeah my buying Subaru's over the years and my family buying them doesn't really qualify me because I'm just a customer who buys cars and not a big shot.
I'm sure you've contributed a lot and SOA probably does listen to you. They sure don't listen to me.
I would never infringe on anyones right to have an opinion bob, it's just that for me if I am selling a product and people all say how great or bad it is but don't actually buy i then sure maybe their advice is helpful but the people spending the money have a bit more say in my opinion, now of course you and I and mike as well as many other have bought more than 1 or 2 Subaru's. I know a family that only buys Subaru and each kid had one so that's 3 and the parents had one each and then they had like 2 older ones for beaters, and they just love their cars! But why doesn't Subaru offer loyalty points like some companies?
Also lets see how the styling fares over time. many people will buy a car just because it's the latest thing. So lets see how well the WRX does over say 2 years of time and see how sales are with the same engine and de-contented from last year and the whole ball of wax. My guess is they are going to have to make the car more rugged looking. Let's also see how well th new Lancer does in comparison because they weren't doing so well before and they really are the closest competitor. marketing types always would prefer to listen to praise than criticism.
I'm planning on spending money on a new car. My wife is voting Lancer 110% and hates the look of the WRX. I don't know what I'm going to buy yet. But Subaru treated me well before so I'm going to give them a shot, so we shall see.

#295 of 1480 Re: Japan June sales [rsholland] by ateixeira

Jul 05, 2007 (8:57 am)

Replying to: rsholland (Jul 05, 2007 7:39 am)
this figure was 176% of last June's sales
 
The Impreza figure is 43% above Subaru's monthly forecast (2,500/month).

 
Um, steve, might want to read those facts again....
 
We're seeing the same thing in the CR-V thread, it has an ugly underbite and no V6 and no more power yet it's now the best selling SUV in the country.
 
Subaru has said all along it was going to focus on giving the customer what they want, and an LSD simply isn't on the list for most customers. A nicer interior is probably on nearly everyone's list, and over half of new customers say they will consider a GPS on their next car.

#296 of 1480 Re: I think [stevecebu] by rsholland

Jul 05, 2007 (8:58 am)

Replying to: stevecebu (Jul 05, 2007 8:44 am)
Yeah my buying Subaru's over the years and my family buying them doesn't really qualify me because I'm just a customer who buys cars and not a big shot.
I'm sure you've contributed a lot and SOA probably does listen to you. They sure don't listen to me.

 
"Big shot?" The only reason I and others have been invited to SOA events is because we've earned their respect over the years for what we've said here at Edmunds. They apparently think that what we've said, and have to say, has some value, and so they seek out our advice.
 
Bob

#297 of 1480 Re: Japan June sales [ateixeira] by stevecebu

Jul 05, 2007 (9:15 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 05, 2007 8:57 am)
this figure was 176% of last June's sales
The Impreza figure is 43% above Subaru's monthly forecast (2,500/month).
Um, steve, might want to read those facts again....

 
Thanks, but I already read them and yes I'm sure that selling a bunch more units on a car that had poor sales to begin with will see an increase with early adopters and people who want the latest and greatest and I have mentioned that fact more than once.
Let's see how well they do in the US. In Japan they were 23rd. Let's see how many units they sell and for what months. Figures don't lie, maybe the new car is a wunderkind and will make buyers flock to it in droves and keep doing so for years to come. I man as long as there aren't ay old models left in stock to actually compare them to. But then again new buys won't care about performance anyway because Subaru isn't going after that market. They want a different audience now. The older people who won't buy a Camry and yet have to talk the wife into a family car that's fun for them to drive. "See honey, it's too bland looking to be fun, can we buy it?"

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