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Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Subaru Impreza, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#1416 of 1480 Re: I was right, I was wrong [volkov]
Aug 04, 2008 (11:21 am)
So what you're saying is neither US wagon or Sedan had VDC in the GT?? I am wondering that given the fact that you do track the wagon and say you wish you had VDC
That's exactly right. In their infinite wisdom, Subaru still didn't include VDC in GT Ltd. Sedan w/manual even in 2009. They did for Outback XT, already in 2008, IIRC, but for sedan you have to get an auto with GT. Basically, since NA 2.5 (SE and i) versions do get VDC, the mentioned GT version is now the only Subaru not getting VDC (even '09 Impreza gets it across the line, IIRC the press release). Go figure
#1417 of 1480 Center Differential Settings
Aug 04, 2008 (12:46 pm)
I hit manual and drove on the "loosest" setting on the way to work today. Only for a couple of miles. The car drives much "lighter" and felt smoother. I think I might like it better. I have just been using "auto" for now, but thought it was worth trying.
I am going to stick with the "auto" setting for the majority of the time for now, but it was an interesting observation.
#1418 of 1480 Re: I was right, I was wrong [paisan]
Aug 04, 2008 (4:20 pm)
Second here in the USDM market which is about 95%+ on this board, the Wagon was equipped exactly like the Sedan.
Well, I checked when I got home and was correct as the 2008 Canadian brochure specifies that VDC is only available on select sedans, aka Spec B and GT lim with auto.
For the benefit of your claimed 95%, I did some searching and according to two sources including Edmunds, in the last year the GT wagon was available in the US, sedans with EAT got VDC, wagons did not. So the spec was not exactly the same - the exact point I was making. If you get dismissive it helps to be correct.
BTW, I'm not bellyaching about the end of the wagon, it simply didn't meet my desire for a sporty wagon with auto with VDC that's why I didn't buy one. I do agree with the primary point you made that we can't complain about the demise of something we didn't support by spending the $$ to buy it.
#1419 of 1480 Re: I was right, I was wrong [volkov]
Aug 04, 2008 (5:17 pm)
Sorry for offending you about the 5% comment. But in general we are discussing USDM cars and SOA here, not SOC. That was my point.
As for the upcoming redesign, you will see both the Outback and the Legacy on the same platform, but you may see different front sheet metal on the fenders/hood to differentiate them a bit.
As for a sporty wagon, looks like audi is it or an E-class.
Subaru gave up on the luxury market, and that's really who is offering sporty wagons now. They weren't taking on the germans, similar to how Lexus dropped the IS Wagon. Infinity doesn't have a G or M wagon, etc.
#1420 of 1480 Any more news on the changes for 2009?
Aug 18, 2008 (11:53 am)
#1421 of 1480 Re: Why they killed the wagon? [dino001]
Aug 24, 2008 (10:05 am)
I couldn't agree more! Word for word, that's how I feel. My little one will soon be taller than me, we need more leg room. We need a bit more storage capacity. I don't want a "cute ute" or a high center of gravity, plastic clad, off road pretender. I want a high value, practical, high performance, all wheel drive, wagon.
#1422 of 1480 Re: Why they killed the wagon? [merrycynic]
Aug 25, 2008 (6:11 pm)
VW? Tarus-x? A3? A4? BMW 3 or 5? MB C or E?
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#1423 of 1480 Re: Why they killed the wagon? [paisan]
Aug 25, 2008 (7:16 pm)
I dunno if you could call the Taurus X anything even a little sporty. I think the Legacy the Passat and the Mazda were about it, and the Legacy and Passat could get close to A4 and 3-series territory.
#1424 of 1480 Re: Why they killed the wagon? [lilengineerboy]
Aug 25, 2008 (7:36 pm)
Depends who you ask about the Tarus-X. How about the Ford Flex? It looks like a bigger mini-cooper!
WRX? It's got big seats and it's a wagon/hatch?
If there were truely a market for a "reasonably priced" sporty wagon, then other manufacturers would have jumped into the market. My guess is that the size of the potential buyer pool is small enough not to warrant manufacturers making them.
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#1425 of 1480 Re: Why they killed the wagon? [paisan]
Aug 26, 2008 (4:27 am)
I think I may take a test drive of new '09, but I don't get my hopes too high. Perhaps GTP will sway me, but I doubt it, too. Five years ago I would be extatic on that car - today I acknowledge the effort, but well - I dunno. New WRX will be great for what it is - a pocket rocket compact car, but I'm already in search for a car for grown-ups. I would easily let go a few (20-30) horses and totally sharp cornering for a better ambience and a few modern ammenities that Legacy GT offered (and some more that it doesn't). Leave the cladding, long springs and all-terrain tires in the factory and I would take it. If I had to pay extra for that, I might as well buy a car that was designed the right way from ground up in Munich.
Now, my problem with WRX ('08 or '09) is its interior - not even remotely as nice as Legacy's. It's better made than my current '02 for sure, but it's still light years from Legacy/Outback. It's dull, unexciting, and plain downgrade if you consider that the car has a sticker close to 30K. Red stiching will put some make-up on it, but it won't solve the fundamentals. None of which is true for Legacy. Boy-racer tail lights don't help, either.