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Future Vehicles 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Aug 03, 2008 3:32 pm) This is not the case, they still produce it for other markets. There just was not a demand for the Legacy wagon, if they sold them off the walls they would not have killed it. There are about 20 people whining about no wagon, but everyone else voted with their wallet and bought Outbacks. That's what folks wanted in the wagon body style, period. -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Aug 03, 2008 4:05 pm) Subaru doesn't sell anything "off the walls" though. Until very recently, Ford sold more F150s a month than Subaru sold Legacys in a year. If you are going to be low volume, you have to be profitable at it. It doesn't worry me too much, I am okay with the Legacy wagon we have now, but as far as strategic business direction, I think they are headed for a pre-Goshen Nissan meltdown. Getting bought by Toyota, the inventor of the automotive appliance, probably won't help.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Aug 03, 2008 4:38 pm) Do you really think that the deminse of the USDM Legacy wagon signals a bad strategic business direction? They were fishing or cutting bait. Obviously if the Legacy Wagon had been selling like hotcakes they would have kept it. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on it. Personally, I would love a Subaru Coupe, but I know I'm in the minority so I'm not out screaming my head off like the 20-30 wagon fans about it. If I want a coupe, I'll vote with my pocketbook and not buy a Subaru or wait til they offer one, or buy a vintage SVX, RS or XT6  -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Aug 03, 2008 5:04 pm) I think they are going to go down to making a WRX sedan and an Outback wagon and that will be the extent of their model line. Maybe the Forrester will remain too, as the WRX wagon. Personally, I would love a Subaru Coupe, but I know I'm in the minority so I'm not out screaming my head off like the 20-30 wagon fans about it. If I want a coupe, I'll vote with my pocketbook and not buy a Subaru or wait till they offer one, or buy a vintage SVX, RS or XT6 So if you were a company, and a bunch of people wanted something, wouldn't you want those people to tell you? Even Ford figures it out eventually, they are bringing back the Focus hatch.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Aug 03, 2008 6:07 pm) I bet Ford brought it back due to competition or other market data, not due to a few folks whining about it on the internet or calling their 800 number. The Forester outsells the Impreza IIRC. I think we will see a shakeout in terms of body styles coming up. 2.5i will get sedan and wagon 2.5gt will get sedan only WRX will go to wagon only -mike |
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OK, let the conspiracy theories fly. Here's mine. Subaru hints at what is coming in the future with current product. I predict that they are going to make the Outback more distinct from the Legacy for 2010. Doing so means it will no longer be just a Legacy wagon. So they dropped that wagon in advance and gave the Outback a distinct nose from the Legacy sedan to being to differentiate those more. We may not like it now, but in 2010, when 2 very different looking models come out, it will all make more sense.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 04, 2008 5:58 am) BMW folks could say "get X3", but they don't. They still sell 3-wagon. Same Audi, Volvo, even Saab. All because they have strong wagon market elsewhere so they can bring at least something here - not whole line, but at least some. Well, Subaru also has strong Legacy wagon presence elsewhere, even in Canada. I know, I know, better prices, more demand etc. I understand the concerns. They are real, but there are some ways to make up for it. Make it make it more expensive and special order (I can test drive sedan and then order wagon). Make it limited release - 500/year, which may get you off the hook in some government requirements. Make it in third-fourth model year, so you already absorbed some R&D costs and figured out market demands for packaging. Do something so I don't have to go to Bavaria and drop 40+ large to buy my next car 
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Replying to: dino001 (Aug 04, 2008 6:30 am) If cost is an issue now, it will only get worse.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 04, 2008 6:37 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Aug 04, 2008 6:43 am) Let's see what they do here. Will the next Outback be based on the Exiga, perhaps? |
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