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Re: I was right, I was wrong [ateixeira]
by dino001
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Aug 01, 2008 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 01, 2008 9:46 am)
By outgoing you mean '07 or '08? If I'm not mistaken '07 incentives never hit 2 grand, but I may be wrong about that. I'm pretty sure they weren't there early in '07. By the time WRX Ltd showed up (was it '06 or '07 MY) everybody who wanted one, had it already, or went some place else - even Saabaru had leather before WRX. It was simply too late. On the other hand, '07 STI Ltd sold out, many with ADMs, so when real stuff was offered, it did sell (there was nothing else that fast with that equipment at that price). 2008 doesn't have Ltd. package, it has pathetic "premium", which has just a better stereo and whetever else.
Let me put it this way. Subaru has sent me two GTP offers since introduction of WRX. Second time large incentives were already in place (although mostly on sedan for some reason). Even combined with VIP program, I still wasn't interested. If I get another GTP (I doubt, as I have '03), I may really tempted to go for it, of course if I don't get overpriced premium midsize wagon from a competition first
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Re: I was right, I was wrong [dino001]
by ateixeira
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Aug 01, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Aug 01, 2008 10:09 am)
I think they only built 800 STI Limited, 400 in each of only 2 colors. So that would explain the shortage.
The Premium package on the 2.5i is a more significant upgrade then it is on the WRX. They got the packaging wrong on that one.
How often do you trade cars? Yours is still fairly new, and you're happy with it, so why trade? I guess you're looking for a compelling reason to trade in a perfectly good car.
Maybe Subaru is doing you a favor, making you wait. LOL
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Re: I was right, I was wrong [ateixeira]
by dino001
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Aug 01, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 01, 2008 11:46 am)
That's a good one, LOL. My target trading frequency is 6 years giver or take one, which means this year was first one when I could seriously consider trading-in and really last one when Subaru was willing to stick out GTP for my car. Call it "perfect mix". There was no product in Fall last year and still nothing for me in this Spring. I'm not willing to pony up $35K+ for STI, in fact I don't really want a car that fast and furious. The perfect car for me was there: it was called 2005 Legacy wagon GT Ltd. with manual, plus current IIHS side impact crash rating (they had issues fixed in '06), SI-drive, tilt-telescopic wheel from '08 and VDC from Spec-B. I asked my local salesman to call me when a wagon Spec-B shows up, but no calls yet
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Re: I was right, I was wrong [dino001]
by ateixeira
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Aug 01, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: dino001 (Aug 01, 2008 12:09 pm)
We missed GTP by one model year. They take cars as far back as 2003, but ours was a 2002. So waiting for the new Forester cost us that convenience.
I say convenience because I doubt we would have gotten more than I got via Private Party sale. So no big deal.
Patience is a virtue!
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Re: I was right, I was wrong [ateixeira]
by paisan
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Aug 01, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 01, 2008 12:21 pm)
Sorry but you guys thinking that an STi would court BMW and Audi drivers at their own price range is crazy. I've been in the Subaru business for 10+ years and 95% of the owners are about as cheap as they come. Downright stingy. This is why SOA has to carefully choose what they put in and take out based on how much FHI is charging them. This is the real reason it takes so long for SOA to get the correct mix, because it's a costly game of adding salt to the soup so to speak. FHI isn't real lenient with SOA in terms of price/option, thus they are very conservative in terms of what SOA asks FHI for in their cars.
-mike
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Re: I was right, I was wrong [paisan]
by paisan
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Aug 01, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Aug 01, 2008 12:45 pm)
As for a Spec B Wagon. Not going to happen. It's already been confirmed there will be no Legacy Wagon in the next generation MY2010.
-mike
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Re: I was right, I was wrong [paisan]
by dino001
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Aug 01, 2008 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Aug 01, 2008 12:47 pm)
I was sarcastic - I AM NOT waiting for that phone call from my salesman.
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Re: I was right, I was wrong [paisan]
by dino001
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Aug 01, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Aug 01, 2008 12:45 pm)
Yes, cheap we are. That's why I called it "poor man's M3 and 335". Both (the latter if well equipped) are well outside of STI price range. Same with WRX - it's outside of 135i or loaded A3, especially 3.2 (somewhat tougher with 2.0T).
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Re: I was right, I was wrong [paisan]
by merrycynic
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Aug 01, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Aug 01, 2008 12:47 pm)
"No Legacy Wagon". That is bad news. Just as I was becoming a Subaru loyalist, I might have to reconsider.
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SI drive and power delivery
by sbcooke
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Aug 03, 2008 (5:36 am)
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I have been noticing that the power delivery between 2-3000 rpms is really jerky in my STI. This is in regular around town acceleration. Under rapid acceleration it isn't as noticeable. I thought maybe this was a break in thing and it would slowly get better. At around 800 miles, this morning, it still seemed to be the same.
So I tried playing with the SI drive. I tried it in "Intelligent" mode. I normally drive around in sport sharp. In intelligent mode, it is pretty much smoothed over and I am not able to notice it.
Perhaps it will get better in sport sharp as time moves on, and perhaps I need to consider either intelligent mode for around town or just learn to like this as one of the cars quirks? Or I will have to be more of a lead foot stop light to stop light...then it isn't there since you are over 3000 rpms very quickly.
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