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You are in the Hyundai Elantra
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#139 of 158 MPG discussion continued
Oct 06, 2007 (4:17 pm)
I apologize in my original post about the "demanding" part. I was getting a bit angry. When I was shopping for cars, I was basing my purchasing decision heavily on price, MPG (according to the posted info online and on those info sheets they place in the window), warranty, and size/comfort inside [in that order]. So that being considered, are the MPG estimates that were posted online and on those car information sheets still accurate in estimated MPG? If they were to run those exact tests on the exact car again, only after the re-calibration, would the results still be 28 MPG city, 35 MPG highway? Because if that is NOT true, that is false advertising and depending on how much lower those estimate were, that may have effected my purchasing decision.
My current calculated mpg is roughly 28 mpg (during non-ethanol gas months). I drive about 40% city, 60% highway with the A/C on in moderate/mild temperatures. After I get my car re-calibrated, I'll post my new calculated mpg.
Oh, and here is another thing; When they re-calibrate the car, do they modify the odometer to reflect what the mileage should have truly been? Because I am close to qualifying for an insurance discount for driving under 10,000 miles/year, and missing out on that because the car was over-reporting mileage is going to irritate me.
#140 of 158 Re: MPG discussion continued [he07drivr]
Oct 08, 2007 (11:57 am)
the testing standards the EPA uses is based on human calculations, not on the trip computer.
Also, the MPG on the window stickers is based on EPA numbers, so no, its not false advertising, cause they aren't hyundai numbers.
No, they don't modify the odometer. Hyundai has extended the warranty 3%, and 3% of 10000 miles is only 300 miles, so you should not worry. Besides, what does your insurance company do, come out and check you mileage every year?
#141 of 158 Re: MPG discussion continued [he07drivr]
Oct 08, 2007 (12:00 pm)
One other not, the EPA has changed their testing standards to get a more accurate MPG for cars (such as testing at 75 mph, testing with the ac running, higher accel rates, and so on), the the new 08 tests show 25 MPG city and 33 MPG highway for the elantra automatic.
Again, you have to understand that these numbers are just averages, and unless you drive exactly as the test drive did, then you may not get these results. The EPA does these test to give you a range of what you SHOULD expect, not what you will ACTUALLY get.
#142 of 158 MPG discussion (now)
Oct 08, 2007 (2:28 pm)
About the insurance mileage discount. I agree with the other replier when he asked if the insurance company comes out to check the odometer. In my many many years they have not and I doubt they ever will. You can give them an annual mileage total of whatever you want. If they know you are a salesman and drive lots of miles and you put down 10000, the agent might question you. Myself, I get old people discount, list low miles, but if I take an extended trip or two a year I am way past what I list. I am not worried about such a trivial thing and doubt the rate difference is that much. About EPA mileage on the window sticker, my car still falls in the average and that is good. Guess I am still more interested in the long term warranty for now.
#143 of 158 Re: speedo error 2007 Elantra [bhmr59]
Oct 08, 2007 (4:03 pm)
Sorry, I'm confused. If "actual" MPG is based on odometer(unreprogramed) reading, aren't we creating the same error?
We had ours reprogrammed last week; haven't confirmed speedo or odometer yet but apparent(oh gosh am I really going 80 MPH?) speed is more real.
#144 of 158 Re: MPG discussion (now) [ebbuts]
Oct 09, 2007 (1:34 pm)
Do they note the mileage when you make a claim? If that's the case, they may check the mileage at the time the ins. policy started and do the math. Not sure if they'd bother even then, though.
#145 of 158 Info about TSB from SaferCar.gov
Nov 03, 2007 (8:41 am)
Hope this helps some folks: (on www.safercar.gov)
Make : HYUNDAI Model : ELANTRA Year : 2007
Manufacturer : HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY
Service Bulletin Num : 0790010 Date of Bulletin: SEP 01, 2007
NHTSA Item Number: 10023141
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
ECU REPROGRAMMING FOR SPEEDOMETER DISPLAY CUSTOMER SATISFACTION ACTION (CSA) *NJ
#146 of 158 Letter regarding odometer/ speedometer
Nov 07, 2007 (11:33 am)
Does anyone know if the letter that Hyundai sent out regarding this is posted anywhere online? The only thing I can find is regarding the speedometer not the odometer. Please help as I am fighting with my dealership about this.
#147 of 158 Re: Just Got this letter from Hyundai [harlqn]
Nov 07, 2007 (11:34 am)
Anyway you can send me a copy of the letter? I can't find mine and I want the actual letter. Thanks!
#148 of 158 They should recall the cars effected...
Nov 07, 2007 (11:43 am)
FYI... I don't know if you are aware, but I just got off the phone with my service department who informed me that when they fix the problem, the attach a sticker to your vehicle stating that the mileage is incorrect. This information will go on the title of the vehicle.
I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't buy a car if the mileage isn't correct. They need to recall the car and replace them with one that doesn't have incorrect mileage. I see a lawsuit in the future about this!