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Re: upgrading to 19" wheels/tires on my 2001 turbo [dfinkelsteinmd]
by dfinkelsteinmd
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Apr 03, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: dfinkelsteinmd (Mar 29, 2008 5:49 pm)
i agree that the michelins outlast the pirellis, although my mercedes wagon goes through michelins pretty fast for a family vehicle. my concern about the upgrade has more to do with fitment, however. does anyone know about needing spacers for the 19" wheels that have offsets of 56 and 57, while my car's 18"ers have 50 and 45.
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Re: tire wear [chile96]
by 07997turbo
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Apr 22, 2008 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: chile96 (Mar 08, 2007 7:33 pm)
I just took my 07 turbo in for its first service a week ago and encountered the same issue. The dealership wanted to charge me $1600 for a new set of rear Michelins and another 500 for an AWD alignment. My fronts have only 50% wear and it seems evenly disbursed. It seems to definitely be a rear suspension camber issue. I am switching from the michelins to Pirelli after reading reviews and comparing test results between the Michelins, Bridgestone and Pirelli. Also, I am getting 4 new tires for what the dealership wanted to charge me for 2...
235/35ZR19 Pirelli PZero Rosso Asimmetrico N1
(Porsche)
for 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo Standard brakes
In Stock 2 $308.00 $616.00
305/30ZR19 Pirelli PZero Rosso Asimmetrico N1
(Porsche)
for 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo Standard brakes
In Stock 2 $445.00 $890.00
Shipping Sub-Total: $52.10
I think it may be something thqt can be tweaked on the rear suspension to increase the camber slightly to prevent this uneven wear. However, I am not impressed with 50% wear on my front set of Michellins with less than 10K miles. Hence the switch to the Pirelli (I'll let you know how these wear over the summer).
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- #28 of 37
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Re: tire wear [07997turbo]
by 07997turbo
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Apr 23, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: 07997turbo (Apr 22, 2008 7:50 pm)
Addendum....
The Dealership wanted to charge $400 for load balancing TWO tires. I am having all FOUR done for $200....
No WONDER Porsche forward market earnings expectations are high....
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Re: tire wear [07997turbo]
by habitat1
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Apr 24, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: 07997turbo (Apr 22, 2008 7:50 pm)
Not sure what reviews you have read, but from everything I've read and heard from others with experience, the Michelins are equal or better than the Pirelli's in both performance and wear. Both my selling dealer and my servicing dealer claim that the Michelins are quieter, comparable dry performance, better wet performance and last 20% longer than P-Zero Rosso's.
I have Pirelli's on my 911S (same size as yours, except rears are 295 vs. 305). I replaced the rears at 12,500 miles. Fronts are still decent at 18,500 miles. I would have gone to Michelins, but because of a mess up on something else, the dealer gave me the Pirelli's for $440 each (Tire Rack price) and mounted/balanced them for free. Next time, I'll reconsider the Michelins.
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Re: tire wear [habitat1]
by dfinkelsteinmd
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Apr 24, 2008 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 24, 2008 8:51 am)
my P zero's are noisy too, but are wearing well after 13,000 miles on both front and rear of my 996TT. my wife and i drive mercedes E series most of the time, however, and the michelins on them do not hold up well, but are quiet. we've gone through 3 sets of pilots on the E55 and two sets on the E350 with less than 40,000 miles on them. also, the michelins split and leak from the sidewalls very easily and cannot be patched when damaged like that.
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Re: tire wear [habitat1]
by 07997turbo
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Apr 30, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 24, 2008 8:51 am)
Looking at the tread configuration, I can agree that the Michelins are quieter (Though the 480 BHP growl behind me kinda drones them out) but the tread on the pirellis seems to be much better in the rain with far less hydroplaning. If the tires are good enough for a hlf a million dollar lambo.... we shall see how they wear.
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Re: tire wear [chile96]
by 911c4s
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Nov 14, 2008 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: chile96 (Mar 08, 2007 7:33 pm)
Chile96 is right. I had a slow leak in my rear tire and dropped into the dealer. They found nothing (no nail in the tire etc)..they did however tell me that my tires were down to the bone on the inside due to the negative camber. Dealer told me that I must be really into the corners (which I always am especially on the sunday morning drives). Check the car when its up on the hoist. You cannot tell by looking at the tires when its on the ground. The inner edges can be bald and the outer may look fine. It was really surprising to me too.
I barely get a summer of the rears and I drive my car every single day from home to the office from spring to fall (except in bad ugly weather)
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Wheel finish
by Goose04
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Feb 03, 2009 (3:14 pm)
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I own a 2004 Cab C4S, and the finish is coming off the wheels, of course the dealer says they can't do anything about it, it only has 22000 miles on it. They also claim that the previous owner had the wheels reworked because of curb rub. I was fine with that until I read an article in Auto Week that claims the dust from the brakes cause this to happen, anyone know anything about this?
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Tire repair for tubo tire
by ffong
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Jun 23, 2009 (6:10 pm)
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I just purchased my first 911 4S Cabriolet.My wife is driving it now she found the rear tire had a nail in it. When my wife took the car to the local Porsche dealer, the service manager, told my wife that Porsche will not fix a simple nail in the tire because of liabilities. She needs to buy a new tire and replace it. They send my wife to a tire shop to do the repair, anyone out there had the same experienced?
My personal opinion is that they may hold more liabilities turning my wife away, knowingly that she drives with a nail in the tire.........not a very considerate in more ways than one, safety, customer service, and liabilities. please give me your feed back......
Francis
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Re: Tire repair for tubo tire [ffong]
by dfinkelsteinmd
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Jun 23, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: ffong (Jun 23, 2009 6:10 pm)
Although this advice is self-serving and expensive, it is not unusual. I suggest you try a local tire shop that handles the Michelin or Pirelli's that your car wears. They will most likely repair your tire or offer to replace it if there is any warranty left on it. If you think a new tire is expensive, you can imagine the outrage I felt when a dealer strongly recommended replacing both rear tires on my Porsche when only one had a flat...
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