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1965 Mustang Value

71 messages,  Last post on Jan 31, 2013 at 8:33 PM

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What is this discussion about? Ford Mustang, Classic Cars, Coupe

#22 of 71 Re: That's true [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 08, 2007 (10:12 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 08, 2007 10:05 am)
Mustang was a cheap car. They cut every corner possible.

#23 of 71 Re: That's true [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

Apr 08, 2007 (5:26 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 08, 2007 10:12 am)
Mustang was a cheap car. They cut every corner possible.
 
So when the Mustang went to an alternator, what did they replace the GEN light with? AMPS? BATT? ALT? That's what I was getting at, that Ford would actually make the effort to CHANGE the GEN light as soon as they went to an alternator, whereas GM held onto the GEN well into the 70's!

#24 of 71 Re: That's true [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 08, 2007 (5:31 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 08, 2007 5:26 pm)
It says "ALT".
 
I think Chrysler Corp. was first with the alternator in 1961, right? or 60? I ferget.
 
The alternator was a good thing. Generators don't charge very well at slow idle, especially at night or with AC on.

#25 of 71 Re: That's true [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

Apr 08, 2007 (6:25 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 08, 2007 5:31 pm)
Chrysler switched to alternators in 1961. Hey, would it be hard to convert something like my '57 DeSoto to an alternator? I've often wondered about that, but then, since I don't have to depend on it for daily transportation, it's probably not a big deal. I do remember though, how at night, especially stopped at a traffic light with the turn signal on, the needle would seem to drop precipitously low, in sync with the turn signal. Sometimes I'd drop it into neutral in such situations so it would rev a bit faster.
 
Truthfully though, my '68 Dart would do the same thing, just not as bad. And sometimes, in the mornings, if I have the lights on and the heater/defrost going full blast, my '79 NYer's amp gauge will go just enough to the discharge side to make the idiot light come on. One thing that impresses me about that car is that, with all the cost cutting that went on in the late 70's, they actually went through the effort to make full gauges AND idiot lights standard on those cars. Of course, sometimes that can cause problems, like when the temp gauge reads normal but the idiot light comes on! At first I was worried about which one I should believe, until I noticed that sometimes the idiot light would come on at times when it couldn't possibly be too hot, like when first starting off. Oddly, my departed 1979 Newport occasionally did the same thing. So I guess that must make it a "feature"

#26 of 71 Re: That's true - alternator by hpmctorque

Apr 09, 2007 (1:19 am)

Chrysler introduced the alternator on the '60 Valiant, the first model year for that car. My family owned one. Great car, by the way.

#27 of 71 Re: That's true [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas

Apr 09, 2007 (7:22 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 08, 2007 10:12 am)
You're right. They were VERY cheap cars but they sure managed to hit the mark at the time.
 
Nothing moe than a glorified Falcon!

#28 of 71 Re: That's true - alternator [hpmctorque] by isellhondas

Apr 09, 2007 (7:24 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 09, 2007 1:19 am)
You are correct.
 
The Falcon, Corvair and Valiants were the first of the new "Compact Cars".
 
The Valiants were, by far, the best of that bunch!

#30 of 71 Re: That's true - alternator (isellhondas) by hpmctorque

Apr 09, 2007 (8:21 am)

"The Valiants were, by far, the best of that bunch!"
 
I agree, because in addition to the alternator, in place of a generator, the Valiant had an excellent 3-speed automatic, versus 2-speeds for the Falcon and Corvair, handled far better and was more rugged than the other two. The Corvair was interesting and the Falcon was a decent value, but the Valiant, while priced a little higher than the others, was worth the modest additional amount that it cost. Too bad none of the three offered a decent 4-speed manual (5-speeds came later even on European cars).

#31 of 71 Re: That's true - alternator (isellhondas) [hpmctorque] by isellhondas

Apr 09, 2007 (9:07 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 09, 2007 8:21 am)
Tha alternator was no big deal but the whole car in general was much better. The slant six made the big difference along with the rugged torqueflight.
 
The weakest part of those cars were the front ends. They were hard on ball joints and tie rod ends but so were the Falcons.
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