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Re: Drivers side NOT COLD [imidazol97] by txcarnovice
Aug 18, 2009 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 22, 2009 4:00 am)

Have a 2002 Bonneville with the dual zone system, and it is ONLY the driver's side that is blowing warm air, but even that is mostly when the car is up at speed.
 
Passenger side blows cold all the time.
 
Driver's side will blow cold when the car is sitting still or when moving a neighborhood speeds, but as you go up to highway, the air gets warmer (though never is fully outside air temp).
 
Driver's side will blow hot when you ask it to with controls and definitely cools down a little when you turn the A/C on, but is probably 15-20 degrees warmer than the passenger side.
 
Any thoughts?
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Re: Drivers side NOT COLD [txcarnovice] by imidazol97
Aug 18, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: txcarnovice (Aug 18, 2009 11:01 am)

The larger number of problems is that the R134a is low on charge. The freon enters the evaporator in the area that the air to the passenger flows over, so it gets the colder metal as the freon expand and cools. The freon doesn't make it to the other side where the driver's air is moving over the coils.
 
First thing is to check on freon charge.
 
The other is that some have trouble with actuators. I believe there are three and they are all on the driver's side of the HVAC stack in the middle of the car.
 
Take off the hush panel, and move the AC controls to different settings and you should be able to cause each of those to move. You can see the axle of the actuator move people say. They are also made for easy remove and replace. Just be careful to install correctly. Some actuators have failed, but I would think that would cause you to have the wrong temperature all the time.
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Re: a/c vent problem [imidazol97] by jd0754
Aug 20, 2009 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 18, 2009 9:51 am)

This thing is all balled up, does not have dual temp control, put selector on floor setting and it comes out of both the floor and defrost all the time, put on defrost setting and it does the same, put on center vent and eventually it will come out of the center vents, temp seems to be ok I had it at 60 and it was cold, it's just that it won't come out of the right vents.
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Re: a/c vent problem [jd0754] by imidazol97
Aug 20, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: jd0754 (Aug 20, 2009 6:38 am)

I think you have bad vacuum in the motor or a leak under the hood.
 
Check the vacuum hoses around the motor? Do you hear a vacuum leak?
 
Check the reservoir behind the front wheel underneath. Cracked? One line on it good connection? When you shut off motor and go to it to pull off, there should be a strong vacuum whoosh for 15 seconds or so when you pull off the hose.
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Re: a/c vent problem [imidazol97] by jd0754
Aug 20, 2009 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 20, 2009 11:16 am)

Thanks a bunch, I'll keep you posted, I am going to have guy that's a Mr. Goodwrench at a dealership around here look at it hopefully this weekend. One more question though, when I finally get the air to come out of the center vents when you shut off the engine it closes the door to the center vents immediately so when you restart the car you will have to wait another 5 minutes for the air to come out of the center vents again, caused from losing vacum?
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dual control -driver's cold -pass. hot by pickngrin1
Aug 21, 2009 (5:56 am)
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Greet'ins all!
2002 dual control..excellant AC from driver's side...FULL BLOWN HEATED air from passenger vents.
All fan speeds operational
All modes operational
 
But the AC just cant quite do its job fighting with the blistering hot air coming from the passenger vents...even shutting the vent louvers off, the heat still forces its way out some and also out of the windshield defrost vents.
 
Not a freon problem folks.....is it a bad control? Or can it be a vacuum hose / actuator arm?
Thanks!
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Re: dual control -driver's cold -pass. hot [pickngrin1] by imidazol97
Aug 21, 2009 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: pickngrin1 (Aug 21, 2009 5:56 am)

There are several actuators on the driver's side of the HVAC box. You'll have to try moving different controls and watching for the axle on each one to turn. I'll bet you'll find one isn't moving. It might be stuck--or-- dead.
 
There have been a few reports of failed electric actuators all along with these H-bodies.
 
I can't tell you which actuator is which function. I'll have to see if I have a labelled diagram. My guess is start testing for movements. You'll have one for recirculate, mode choice, driver's temp, passsenger's temp?
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Re: dual control -driver's cold -pass. hot [imidazol97] by pickngrin1
Aug 22, 2009 (4:18 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 21, 2009 12:43 pm)

Thanks, that was it! FIXED IT! After removing the glove box I found a small moterized gear reduction box was stuck...I removed it and manually rotated a shaft that must control an air mix door. I could manually go from full hot to full cold easliy. After opening this small moter/gear box...abut the size of a cigerette pack...I was able to lube and it started working again..the dual system works just great for now!
...reading through all these posts really helped!
-Pick
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Re: dual control -driver's cold -pass. hot [pickngrin1] by imidazol97
Aug 22, 2009 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: pickngrin1 (Aug 22, 2009 4:18 am)

Great! Thanks for coming back to post what worked for you; that will help others know what to test or look for if they have a problem.
 
>I could manually go from full hot to full cold easliy
 
Was that on top of the HVAC box?
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1999 pontiac boneville blender by breez22
Aug 27, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Ok i read through all the post's, and i just got my car back from my mechanic. i've gotten some great info on this my blender door was stuck on the hot side. The mechanic moved it to the cold air side. I have not tried much but this gives me some great ideas. I would like to know does the actuator actually rund the blend door? Are the 1999 models actuator in the same spot on to as the 1997 that the pictures were on? Thank you in advance.

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