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#1 of 7 Grand Marquis starting nightmare by marquisman Mar 10, 2007 (7:15 am)
I have a 1996 Grand Marquis. It has 56,000 original miles and has   developed a problem that 3 different mechanics cannot figure out. I bought   the car in August of 2006 and it ran great and looked like new. All was   well until the temperature dropped below 30 degrees. The car would start   then immediately stall, but on the second try would run great. This was   not a big problem, but did not want it to get worse so I took a garage and   they told me it needed new plugs and wires and to replace the air intake   control valve. Well the next day it was the same so I called the garage   and told them and they said they would check it out. They said that maybe   it was the wrong plugs so they put in the OEM recommended brand, but also   free of charge the replace the water temp sensor. That is when the fun   began. The next day it took me 10 minutes almost a dead battery and   finally starting fluid to get the car started. I have since had replace   the mass flow valve, fuel filter, another temp sensor, oxygen sensor, and   thermostat and nothing helps and paid out over $1,000 so far. Please let   me know what to do as if I can get it started and even to get it to stay   running for the distance of 2 blocks after that it runs great,. Now one of   the mechanics suggested a fuel pump and that will cost me over $400 and   not sure if it will help. Replies to this message: danielj6 (Mar 11, 2007 3:12 pm) marquisman (Mar 12, 2007 10:09 am) jandracchi (Apr 08, 2008 10:10 am)
#2 of 7 Re: Grand Marquis starting nightmare [marquisman] by danielj6 Mar 11, 2007 (3:12 pm)
Replying to: marquisman (Mar 10, 2007 7:15 am) Has any of the shops hooked up the engine to a computer to see if they can retrieve trouble codes before they recommended replacing parts?? Did they keep the car overnight to try to start it during very cold weather in the morning??   If they didn't, they should because they seem to be guessing. Otherwise, you will have to take it to a Mercury dealer service. Some shops are connected to on online database which, once the codes are obtained, it tells them where the problem is. I believe Auto Zone diagnoses engine problems that way. Replies to this message: marquisman (Mar 12, 2007 10:09 am)
#3 of 7 Re: Grand Marquis starting nightmare [danielj6] by marquisman Mar 12, 2007 (10:09 am)
Replying to: danielj6 (Mar 11, 2007 3:12 pm) The second place I took it to was a ford motors dealer and they had it 2 days and all they could come up with was bad fuel pump and mass flow valve and a funny thing is the 1st day they said the pump was fine and then the next day it wasn't. I had the mass flow valve replaced and no difference. The only codes that they could get was a misfire code and that is they replaced the plugs and wires. I am going to replace the fuel pump relay tomorrow as I can get one at NAPA for $11 and who know it may take care of the problem.
#4 of 7 '89 Grand Marquis 5.0 Starting "NIGHTMARE" by walar2007 Aug 09, 2007 (10:56 am)
Is there anybody out there able to share with me how to overcome a cranking, however "NON-STARTING" 5.0, with only 77,620 miles? I've replaced the following: Plugs, Wires, Distributor, Relay to Distributor, Ignition Coil, Battery {twice}. This started two weeks ago. Some days it starts no problem; yesterday, today is a different story . . . .NOTHING. I ran the battery down then began all over again . . . NOTHIN'. I'm at my wits end and need someone to come along side and "PLEASE HELP". Your assistance is well appreciated. Thank You, walar2007. Replies to this message: browney (Aug 14, 2007 6:22 am) beedub (Jan 02, 2008 4:43 pm)
#5 of 7 Re: '89 Grand Marquis 5.0 Starting "NIGHTMARE" [walar2007] by browney Aug 14, 2007 (6:22 am)
Replying to: walar2007 (Aug 09, 2007 10:56 am) I think these older GMs have a ballast resistor in the ignition system. If it does you should try replacing it. Replies to this message: beedub (Jan 02, 2008 4:43 pm)
#6 of 7 Re: '89 Grand Marquis 5.0 Starting "NIGHTMARE" [browney] by beedub Jan 02, 2008 (4:43 pm)
Replying to: browney (Aug 14, 2007 6:22 am) i agree with above and maybe it could be the fuel delivery to the car, fuel shutoff buttin could be stuck,hole in the fuel line,fuel line rusted
#7 of 7 Re: Grand Marquis starting nightmare [marquisman] by jandracchi Apr 08, 2008 (10:10 am)
Replying to: marquisman (Mar 10, 2007 7:15 am) Same year same problem - solved the problem by using lower octane fuel - fixed it immediately - I could go into octane as a measure of combustibility and why the higher octane struggles in the lower temperature but I am not qualified. Try it - I believe it will work.

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