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Re: Weight [okko1]
by phisher
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Nov 13, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: okko1 (Nov 13, 2008 5:50 am)
If you didn't know most honda's, toyota's ect are assembled here in america by american workers. While cars like the chevy aveo are assembled in Mexico and others are assembled in places like Korea. Just in case you forgot until recently Chrysler was a German Company. Just because a manufacturer started in america doesn't mean that thats where there cars are made. As far as the increased costs for domestics I saw a recent estimate that the first $1600 of a cars price come directly from health care costs. I'm amazed that the big 3 aren't screaming for national health care like other industrialized countrys. I'm not saying that that is the magic answer just that it's hard to compete when you start off $1600 in the red per car.
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- #28 of 41
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Re: Weight [phisher]
by dmathews3
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Nov 13, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: phisher (Nov 13, 2008 8:06 am)
May be assembled here but their profits don't stay here. I also wonder what the american people would say if the Big 3 ganged up on Washington demanding a national health system. They may want it and may lobby for it behind closed doors but I think for the most part they stay out of politics. Even when Congress ups the mileage figures they complain what it will cost them but I don't ever remember them going all out to stop it. They bitch a little and follow through. So what do we do? I'm not really for national health care. My friend from Canada had a knee replacement same as I did last year. He had to wait almost 2 1/2 years before his turn came up and he was shocked that I decided I wanted one and waited less than a month. So he suffered in pain all that time while I was back up and working in a month due to mine not detereating from the wait.
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- #29 of 41
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Re: Weight [dmathews3]
by okko1
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Nov 14, 2008 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Nov 13, 2008 8:36 am)
again i would agree with mathews, follow the money. and as for vehicles from mexico , why not we have plenty of people here from mexico. 
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Re: Weight [aspesisteve]
by stevedebi
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Nov 14, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Nov 10, 2008 2:28 pm)
"just another reason to put a bullet into GM
it's exemptions and tax breaks for cars like the Hummer that clearly show a lack of vision and undue poor influence in Washington. Of course no one in the current administration really cares about curbing our use of oil. "
Actually, the exemption was provided because most vehicles above 3 tons are used for business purposes, such as contractors, farmers, etc.
Blame the customers for buying 3 ton vehicles - GM built them because the customers wanted them.
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- #32 of 41
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Re: Weight [stevedebi]
by okko1
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Nov 14, 2008 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Nov 14, 2008 2:25 pm)
yes your absolutely right , it's good to be king. just remember what a wise man once said , dance with the one that brought you or drive yourself home. you have your options and i have mine. peace and may your hyundi bring you many minutes of happiness. 
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Re: Weight [dmathews3]
by phisher
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Nov 15, 2008 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Nov 13, 2008 8:36 am)
Actually the profits go to the shareholders and they can be located anywhere. Sure some of the profits go to Japan but the majority go to the shareholder. As far as health care goes sure other countrys have problems but I was trying to point out that it's hard to compete when you start out at a disadvantage compared to everyone else. 
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- #34 of 41
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Re: Weight [phisher]
by dmathews3
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Nov 15, 2008 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: phisher (Nov 15, 2008 10:35 am)
When is the last time here in America have you ever talked with a Shareholder from Japan? I talked with my money guy who has been in the business for almost 25 years and he said he has never met one either. Reason I asked is that your answer on profits go to shareholders which is the standard answer from people on these Yahoo sites use for justifing their purchase of foreign junk. So I asked him and told him why I was asking him. He thought it interesting and called me the next day after talking about it around the water cooler type talk and no one else has either. Point being is american money, american company, money for the most part stays here. Foreign car, Foreign car, most of the money goes there.
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Re: Weight [dmathews3]
by steve_ HOST
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Nov 15, 2008 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Nov 15, 2008 4:58 pm)
I used to have some shares in a Japanese weighted ETF and they owned some car companies (forgot which ones - Honda and Toyota iirc). I still have some shares in an Asian weighted ETF and they own some Hyundai last I checked.
I have some Ford/Holden and probably lots of other auto related stock buried in those things but usually I just skim the major industries the funds hold. Tell your money guy he needs to diversify so he can lose his shorts worldwide like the rest of us have.
But ... we're really hear to talk about HUMMER MPG.
For the other issues, check out Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?.
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Re: Weight [okko1]
by stevedebi
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Nov 18, 2008 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: okko1 (Nov 14, 2008 6:38 pm)
"yes your absolutely right , it's good to be king. just remember what a wise man once said , dance with the one that brought you or drive yourself home. you have your options and i have mine. peace and may your hyundi bring you many minutes of happiness."
You talkin' to me? Well, I confess I did own a 1989 Excel (for about a year), but my current ride is a Ford Escape Hybrid...
Back on topic, I'm wondering how many people actually use the excellent off-road capabilities of their H2?
OK, REALLY on topic, what MPG would it get off-road, or is it so bad on-road that it doesn't really make a difference.
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