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Re: Weight [aspesisteve]
by okko1
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Nov 11, 2008 (4:06 am)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Nov 10, 2008 2:28 pm)
if you don't like them don't buy them. i'm sure there's a kia with your name on it. 
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- #25 of 41
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Re: Weight [okko1]
by dmathews3
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Nov 11, 2008 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: okko1 (Nov 11, 2008 4:06 am)
Sounds to me like he wants to go back to the days when the only choice was a model T in any color you want as long as it was black. I'd like to know what kind of job he has that he can make the comment about letting GM go out of business. I'm betting within a year he to will be out of a job along with the other 3 to 5 million people that are directly impacted by GM from suppliers to dealers to the corner store. The government figures that CNN posted on line last week said if GM went out of business it would put us into a depression. It would cost the government 56 Billion the first year, 156 billion the second year and up to 500 Billion in 3 to 5 years. Just think of the tax dollars we would lose if GM went out of business. Payroll taxes gone, property taxes gone, and the many, many millions of dollars GM employes give to different charities. How can anyone make such a off the cuff remark just because a Hummer in his opinion is to heavy. So everyone should drive a Smart car as I'm guessing it is the lightest car now on the road.
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- #26 of 41
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Re: Weight [dmathews3]
by okko1
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Nov 13, 2008 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Nov 11, 2008 6:01 am)
i would agree. when you buy american you buy more than just the car. you are investing in the future of your people and your country. gm,ford, and chrysler all build good cars. the problem i think is perception. quality costs money. and with the service programs offered on the H3 cost per mile is competitive. 
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- #27 of 41
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Re: Weight [okko1]
by phisher
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Nov 13, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: okko1 (Nov 13, 2008 5:50 am)
If you didn't know most honda's, toyota's ect are assembled here in america by american workers. While cars like the chevy aveo are assembled in Mexico and others are assembled in places like Korea. Just in case you forgot until recently Chrysler was a German Company. Just because a manufacturer started in america doesn't mean that thats where there cars are made. As far as the increased costs for domestics I saw a recent estimate that the first $1600 of a cars price come directly from health care costs. I'm amazed that the big 3 aren't screaming for national health care like other industrialized countrys. I'm not saying that that is the magic answer just that it's hard to compete when you start off $1600 in the red per car.
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Re: Weight [phisher]
by dmathews3
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Nov 13, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: phisher (Nov 13, 2008 8:06 am)
May be assembled here but their profits don't stay here. I also wonder what the american people would say if the Big 3 ganged up on Washington demanding a national health system. They may want it and may lobby for it behind closed doors but I think for the most part they stay out of politics. Even when Congress ups the mileage figures they complain what it will cost them but I don't ever remember them going all out to stop it. They bitch a little and follow through. So what do we do? I'm not really for national health care. My friend from Canada had a knee replacement same as I did last year. He had to wait almost 2 1/2 years before his turn came up and he was shocked that I decided I wanted one and waited less than a month. So he suffered in pain all that time while I was back up and working in a month due to mine not detereating from the wait.
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- #29 of 41
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Re: Weight [dmathews3]
by okko1
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Nov 14, 2008 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Nov 13, 2008 8:36 am)
again i would agree with mathews, follow the money. and as for vehicles from mexico , why not we have plenty of people here from mexico. 
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- #31 of 41
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Re: Weight [aspesisteve]
by stevedebi
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Nov 14, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Nov 10, 2008 2:28 pm)
"just another reason to put a bullet into GM
it's exemptions and tax breaks for cars like the Hummer that clearly show a lack of vision and undue poor influence in Washington. Of course no one in the current administration really cares about curbing our use of oil. "
Actually, the exemption was provided because most vehicles above 3 tons are used for business purposes, such as contractors, farmers, etc.
Blame the customers for buying 3 ton vehicles - GM built them because the customers wanted them.
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- #32 of 41
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Re: Weight [stevedebi]
by okko1
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Nov 14, 2008 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Nov 14, 2008 2:25 pm)
yes your absolutely right , it's good to be king. just remember what a wise man once said , dance with the one that brought you or drive yourself home. you have your options and i have mine. peace and may your hyundi bring you many minutes of happiness. 
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