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Re: Fusion w/ clutch problems [Mountainman80] by akirby
Dec 11, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: Mountainman80 (Dec 11, 2008 10:32 am)

Have you gotten other quotes? That seems really high for just a clutch replacement. 20,000 is too soon but from Ford's standpoint unless a defect can be identified in the clutch material or clutch engagement then it's just normal wear. It doesn't take much abuse to wear out a clutch in 20,000 miles. Not saying you are abusing it but that's not out of the ordinary.
 
I would have the clutch engagement and material checked by an independent shop. If you can find a defect take it back to Ford. You could also try a heavier duty clutch material.
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Re: had some problems [cjones6] by torquelover
Jan 08, 2009 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: cjones6 (Dec 20, 2007 3:08 pm)

I had the exact same thing happen. You're lucky they replaced the clutch for you. Ford refused to do this for me, even after talking to Ford Customer Service. It's not a great idea to put a used, fluid-soaked clutch in a car receiving a new flywheel and transmission.
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TSB 08-24-1 just done, buy this car for $13K? by jusrelax
Jan 12, 2009 (4:18 am)
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I just had this TSB (transmission fix/replace) done on my 2006 Mercury Milan Premier V6, 1.5 weeks prior to warranty end. The dealer service wouldn't do it until the car hit 20K as per TSB. I didn't know it was transmission related until now. When I brought it in a few weeks ago I only had 19800 and they just reset the computer and said bring back after 20K. Problem started happening when cruise control engaged, going around 60+ mph, accelerating with foot or Set +/-, then decelerating with Set +/-, car would thump, bang, RPM's go to 3-4+, sounded like it was going to blow. Then it kept happening after turning cruise control off. Had to accelerate gradually. This went on for months. Now wondering if engine is damaged. Service said they "opened up" transmission. TSB says transmission control assembly replaced. Also, last week, yellow check engine light came on, service says it was gas cap leak evaporation but not related to this TSB.
 
This is a lease and both it and warranty expires Fri 1/16/09. My buyout price is $13000 and I will have to buy an extended warranty. (I paid in $12K already). If I buy and trade in, only get $11K. To buy equivalent car/mileage - $14500 so once I give up this car couldn't buy similar for $13K. Now car rides great on highway, never sounded and felt so good, but only tested a few days. Gas mileage can go 30 on highway but usually 12-16 around local S. Florida.
 
While gas is cheap now, it already is moving higher. This car gets worse city mpg than my previous Mercury's though replacing 2 OEM Pilot tires with high performance Michelin ones helped a few mpgs at 10K miles.
 
I don't want to lease or buy new. I was thinking of getting a used Hyundai Elantra just for the much better mileage, but for $13000 I'd be getting a 2007 with 20K+ miles but at least would have some warranty left. I can extend the lease a month or two but would only make sense if I was to buy this car. I haven't bought used in years so kinda leery.
 
Is this car now worth buying for $13K? Or is this car tainted & now prone to have more problems with the transmission? According to this, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20081230095641AAz9e5z , this problem can damage the whole transmission, but Ford makes you wait until 20K miles to fix it! I have no idea how bad the tranmission might really be, service isn't saying. Ford warranties this repair for 12 months/12K miles but not sure if that includes the whole transmission they looked at or what parts.
 
Since I'm a first year owner, no prior history avail so don't know what other problems await for this car. This 2006 just missed when Ford lengthened the powertrain warranty later that year.
 
Any opinions appreciated. I noticed in Consumer Reports that 2007-8 Milans don't show this problem as much, or maybe it doesn't show up until later.
 
Thanks!
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Re: TSB 08-24-1 just done, buy this car for $13K? [jusrelax] by berri
Jan 12, 2009 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: jusrelax (Jan 12, 2009 4:18 am)

I think your buyout is way too high for an 06 Ford product (they depreciate pretty quickly). You may be able to negotiate something more realistic (under $10K). However, my experience with Ford vehicles is that the ones that started with problems didn't get better with time and all of them started having problems around 50-60K. I think I'd move on. I've seen ads for new 09 Camry's well equiped at $18,900 and I understand Toyota is about to improve the incentive. I think you can get a new 09 Ford Fusion for less than $15K well equipped where they have to make room for the new improved 10's coming in shortly.
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Re: TSB 08-24-1 just done, buy this car for $13K? [berri] by akirby
Jan 12, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Jan 12, 2009 12:11 pm)

You need to read more. It's not 1990 anymore and the Fusion has better reliability than the Camry. This was an isolated incident (as you can tell by the small size of this forum). The Fusion has been rock solid as have all of the new Fords.
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Re: TSB 08-24-1 just done, buy this car for $13K? [akirby] by berri
Jan 12, 2009 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 12, 2009 12:59 pm)

We'll see as more of them hit 60K and up. I hope you're right but D3 have a mixed record at higher mileage and the Fusion hasn't been out that long. Taurus has only been average, Explorer below average. I'm concerned about their constant cost cutting impact on their parts durability. You screw the vendors, they'll make their money some way or fold. In any event, the buyout price is still way high for an 06. He can get a new Fusion for just a few grand more than they want for him to keep the current car and a Camry for another few grand. Not sure how depreciation will play out and which will cost less over time.
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Re: TSB 08-24-1 just done, buy this car for $13K? [berri] by akirby
Jan 12, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Jan 12, 2009 2:18 pm)

That's a loaded V6 model - you can't buy a new one anywhere close to that price. The OP even said a comparable used model with same mileage is $14,500. So $13K is not a bad price.
 
I've driven several Ford products past 60K with no problems at all. This isn't 1990.
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Re: Driver Door Panel Removal [dansk713] by explorerx4
Jan 12, 2009 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: dansk713 (Oct 14, 2008 8:17 pm)

not sure what model you have, but i have an SEL. it has a black plastic triangle shaped piece with a tweeter in it just above the door panel.
i grabbed it by the top of the triangle and in just pulled away from the door.
didn't pull it completely away from the door, my mirror is still ok , but give it a try before you try taking off the whole inside door panel.
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Re: TSB 08-24-1 just done, buy this car for $13K? [jusrelax] by explorerx4
Jan 12, 2009 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: jusrelax (Jan 12, 2009 4:18 am)

let me see if i have this right, you had your car for three years and have 20k miles on it.
there is A post on the site you linked to that this could cause damage long term.
some things to consider:
search the web for a ford factory extended warranty. select lots of years, low mileage. 7/75 or something like that. some dealers sell these online.
i you get to the point where you want to keep the car, negotiate with the finance person on the warranty, using the web quote.
is the cost of the warrany worth the money for how long you expect to keep the car?
i'm not sure why you bought new tires already.
considering you gas mileage, it sounds like a lot of stop and go/city driving,
if you don't keep the car, get a 4 cyl next time.
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Re: TSB 08-24-1 just done, buy this car for $13K? [akirby] by berri
Jan 12, 2009 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 12, 2009 3:16 pm)

That's a loaded V6 model - you can't buy a new one anywhere close to that price. The OP even said a comparable used model with same mileage is $14,500. So $13K is not a bad price.
 
Maybe at a Ford dealer, but I think if he was trading he'd have a hard time getting $13K. It's 3 years old and despite the low miles, most 3 year old cars lose over half their value. I've driven both the V6 and 4 versions of the Fusion. The original 3.0L V6 doesn't give you that much of a performance edge over a 4 cyl Camry or Accord. The 4cyl is noticeably worse and despite its smaller size it delivers worse mileage than the Camcord. I trust that Ford is speaking the truth when it says the 2010 models will give better performance and mileage because I'd welcome some real competition from Detroit for a change. With all the deals and low financing out there, I think the guy is making a mistake spending that much on a 3 year old common sedan.
 
PS - D3 quality lags are much more recent than 1990 unfortunately, although CR does give the Fusion high marks, but it is an exception on D3 - 3 year reliability.

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