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Re: I agree with the report [gagrice]
by tallman1
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Jul 30, 2009 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 30, 2009 4:54 am)
"Our review indicates that there is currently no evidence to support the selection of organically over conventionally produced foods on the basis of nutritional superiority."
I'm a bit confused about the study... I always thought eating organic food was about avoiding chemicals, not about better nutrition.
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- #123 of 129
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Re: I agree with the report [tallman1]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jul 30, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jul 30, 2009 7:01 am)
That's true...but you will find unsubstantiated articles from health magazines, etc. implying that organic veggies or fruits have more nutritional value.
My feeling is that the health value from eating an apple outweighs any possible risks, especially after you wash it thoroughly.
I made a GREAT apple sauce from the apple trees in my back yard last year. I guess they are "organic" but Santa Cruz county did do some bug spraying last year, so I dunno. I'm still alive though. 
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- #124 of 129
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Re: I agree with the report [Mr_Shiftright]
by gagrice
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Jul 30, 2009 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 30, 2009 8:47 am)
If you check out the regulations on what can be called Organic in the USA, it is pretty sad. The FDA allows chemicals. Most organic produce comes from mega farms that are no more safe than any other farm. Of course I am all for home grown in possible.
PS
I only use fish fertilizer on food crops.
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Re: I agree with the report [Mr_Shiftright]
by ateixeira
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Jul 31, 2009 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 30, 2009 8:47 am)
I'm with you...wash thoroughly.
I don't spray any pesticides on my veggies, to be honest I think my problem is birds anyway.
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Re: I agree with the report [ateixeira]
by gagrice
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Jul 31, 2009 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 31, 2009 8:00 am)
We have so many critters it is hard to pinpoint the culprits. Our entire plum crop was taken without a trace. I am thinking possum. Last year we had a bumper crop of plums and little loss. Peaches are great this year. We are sharing with the birds. Hopefully our great apple crop is ours to eat. Tomatoes have not been pilfered at all this year. No pesticides around my food crops. I do put snail bait around all the flowers. The citrus seem to be safe from pests.
Pollan's book Omnivore's Dilemma blows the whistle on some of those organic mega farms. Finding local grown meat & produce is ideal. Though not always possible.
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Re: I agree with the report [gagrice]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Aug 01, 2009 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 31, 2009 4:19 pm)
Shopping for local grown food is a really beneficial thing to do for all concerned. Ever try netting for your fruit trees? I don't mind sharing with birds either as long as they don't get piggy about it.
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- #128 of 129
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Re: I agree with the report [Mr_Shiftright]
by gagrice
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Aug 01, 2009 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 01, 2009 8:58 am)
We net the small trees and grapes. Our trees are getting large and I am getting lazy in my old age. I would think the 100 lbs of bird seed a month and a gallon of sugar water a day for the hummers and Orioles would be enough. We enjoy the birds. I really like the quail that come past my office twice a day.
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Re: I agree with the report [gagrice]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Aug 01, 2009 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 01, 2009 7:59 pm)
I found that once you start feeding the birds they will eat an enormous amount of seed. Not that I mind. I like 'em around, too---they can be a bit messy though.
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