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#7 of 26 Re: Hyundai Dealers Closing [mike91326]
Mar 26, 2007 (3:14 pm)
Haven't seen anything like this in Texas. One Hyundai dealer did go out of business in Arlington but reopened in pretty much the same site a couple months later under new management. They are a BIG Hyundai dealership.
#8 of 26 Re: General trend [mike91326]
Mar 30, 2007 (10:36 pm)
May I ask which Hyundai dealership the Canoga Park Fuccillo person is at now? I'm totally frustrated with Hyundai's non-availability of service, and worse, Corporate's "don't give a damn" attitude toward customers. They have no understanding whatsoever of traffic gridlock in LA, even though they're "next door" in Orange County. I'm not driving to LAX or Culver City. The Thousand Oaks dealer (Ladin) doesn't have Saturday service hours.(Neither did the Glendale dealer I bought the car from...big mistake on my part.) My best bet is the Oxnard dealer (Todey)but that's a 45 mile drive, though less hassle than LAX. Are there any reliable independent Hyundai-trained technicians in the San Fernando Valley, someone of the caliber of Exclusive Auto in Canoga Park (domestic cars only, unfortunately)?
#9 of 26 Re: General trend [larkspur]
Apr 01, 2007 (9:58 pm)
He went to LAX Hyundai. I understand that there is a dealer near Magic Mountain that has Saturday service hours.
#10 of 26 Re: General trend [mike91326]
Apr 02, 2007 (7:03 am)
Thanks for the tip!!
#11 of 26 Genesis: Hyundai's luxury division; also change Hyundai name?
Apr 06, 2007 (8:41 pm)
Hyundai needs a new luxury division called Genesis badly. Current Hyundai dealerships are still upset Hyundai isn't making $8000 cars for their poor customers. They have no clue about how to sell a luxury car and their customers can't afford it. Just the name Hyundai is one of the worst, hard to pronounce, and offputting names for a company in the English language. Hyundai owners are going to have to say "hyundai" a lot in their daily life, many if not most people don't even know how to pronounce it and wouldn't want to if they could. And Equus?? Genesis is an ideal name and isn't a made up cheesy word like Acura, Infiniti, or Lexus.
Seriously, Kia sounds cool but if I was Hyundai I would consider changing the name of the whole brand just like Datsun became Nissan years ago. And tell whoever's planning on selling Ssangyong cars from Korea to stop smoking crack, one S might be doable but 2?? Hyundai dealers claim they can't even give away Azeras now that Hyundai stopped advertising it. Nobody's going to want to buy a Hyundai costing $35-40,000 with options. I know I wouldn't want it because of the hard to pronounce and unpleasant "Hyundai" name alone.
Instead of calling it the Hyundai Genesis, it should be the first car in a new luxury Genesis division and be called simply the Genesis M luxury performance sedan. The different engines would be distinguished as the Genesis M 4.6 or Genesis M 3.8. The number denoting engine size wouldn't be officially part of the name much like the Audi A4 3.2 or 1.8 or whatever is still called just the A4. The Genesis name would be centered between the taillights, "M" would be above the left taillight, and 4.6 above the right taillight. A lot of people would consider buying an AWD loaded Genesis M 4.6 since it's basically an LS460 or next generation M45 for less than the price of an ES350 or G35. Reshape the M's Camry-like grill and come up with daring designs in the future, hire some Italians.
Future Genesis models could include the S for a smallish sports sedan to compete against ES350, G35, BMW 3, etc. An even smaller R sedan might not be necessary but could compete against the IS250, BMW 3, Audi A, etc. A large L sedan could compete against Lexus 600hL, BMW 760iL, Mercedes S class, etc. G coupe and C convertible hardtop and maybe B hardtop roadster could appeal to sports luxury buyers.
A Genesis X crossover SUV should be sold immediately alongside M as a rebadged and slightly restyled Veracruz with additional luxury features like real wood trim, navigation system, etc. Potentially a real offroading trucklike SUV could be sold as a V class or they could use V as the name for the 2010 Portico large minivan/SUV.
#12 of 26 Re: Genesis: Hyundai's luxury division; also change Hyundai name? [nycdc911
Apr 08, 2007 (7:53 am)
The fact close to 90% of Azera buyers opt for the Limited trim, with most signing up for the Ultimate package, speaks volume for the perceive value of the Azera. Product product product, it sells itself.
Nobody's going to want to buy a Hyundai costing $35-40,000 with options.
I don't know, you might like to revisit such theory. As it is happening as we speak (e.g. Veracruz).
#13 of 26 Re: Genesis: Hyundai's luxury division; also change Hyundai name? [nycdc911]
Apr 16, 2007 (8:26 am)
this is hilarious. Not only do you state where the engine displacement HAS to be on the rear quarter of the car, but apparently, so that people know which car competes against what, they have to include the same letters as bmw, mercedes, and audi?
#15 of 26 Re: Genesis: Hyundai's luxury division; also change Hyundai name? [eldaino]
Apr 16, 2007 (8:34 am)
Before we get too far afield here, let's keep in mind that the point of this discussion was/is whether Hyundai dealers are getting scarce.
The 2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis discussion is where we are talking about whether a luxury division is needed.
#16 of 26 Where are the Hyundais?
Apr 16, 2007 (1:24 pm)
I am in Anaheim for a few days. For the past two days I've been outside some and have been looking for Hyundais. I haven't seen many. Coming in from the Orange Co. airport, it was 20 mins before I say any Hyundai, a Gen 3 Elantra. Then I saw a few Sonatas, all but one the current model (perhaps some were rentals as I am near Disneyland). I have seen one Santa Fe and one new Elantra so far. That's it. So maybe the reason dealers are closing is that it's still the land of Japanese cars in CA. In contrast, there are six dealers in the Twin Cities, an area much smaller than the L.A. area, and 3 more within an hour's drive.