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#102 of 111 How about... by lemko

Sep 04, 2007 (5:36 am)

...an automotive Hall of Fools? I nominate Malcolm Bricklin.

#103 of 111 Re: I'm sure somebody... [Mr_Shiftright] by volvomax

Sep 04, 2007 (3:05 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 03, 2007 5:44 pm)
Or in F1 either.
 
Too bad his road cars weren't as good as his race cars.

#104 of 111 Re: How about... [lemko] by volvomax

Sep 04, 2007 (3:06 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Sep 04, 2007 5:36 am)
You could add virtually every President of GM and Ford to that list.
Or anybody who bought a Yugo

#105 of 111 Re: I'm sure somebody... [volvomax] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Sep 04, 2007 (6:34 pm)

Replying to: volvomax (Sep 04, 2007 3:05 pm)
Lotus road cars weren't very good but they were pretty and they were really really fun to drive.

#106 of 111 Re: I'm sure somebody... [Mr_Shiftright] by volvomax

Sep 05, 2007 (11:22 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 04, 2007 6:34 pm)
Lotus road cars weren't very good but they were pretty and they were really really fun to drive.
 
Yah.
They are better now. the Elise uses Toyota mechanicals IIRC.
Can't wait to see what the new Esprit is going to be like.

#107 of 111 Re: I'm sure somebody... [volvomax] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Sep 05, 2007 (9:57 pm)

Replying to: volvomax (Sep 05, 2007 11:22 am)
Chapman was the "God of Light". His entire philosophy was "lightness is horsepower".
 
But his problem was that he was stubborn as a mule and often made things just a touch *TOO* light.

#108 of 111 Re: I'm sure somebody... [Mr_Shiftright] by bumpy

Sep 06, 2007 (7:26 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 05, 2007 9:57 pm)
It'a lot easier to add weight than remove it, so I think he picked the right side to err on.

#109 of 111 Re: I'm sure somebody... [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Sep 06, 2007 (7:49 am)

Replying to: bumpy (Sep 06, 2007 7:26 am)
as opposed to the "if it breaks, make it heavier, and if it sticks out, chrome it" school of design that thrived before him.
 
Even way back when, Henry Ford was a pioneer of "lightness" with the Model T. The T was one of the first lightweight cars that didn't break, if not the first truly rugged lightweight automobile.

#110 of 111 Re: How about... [volvomax] by rockylee

Oct 11, 2007 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: volvomax (Sep 04, 2007 3:06 pm)
Wagoner, is squared away and has GM, on the right road.
 
-Rocky

#111 of 111 Re: How about... [rockylee] by volvomax

Oct 12, 2007 (11:01 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Oct 11, 2007 6:40 pm)
Wagoner, is squared away and has GM, on the right road.
 
today, but there is always tomorrow.
 
That is the real problem w/ GM.
They never have any kind of long term outlook.

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