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#95 of 114 Re: Problem filling Prius gas tank [tgmartin]
by stevegold
Jan 21, 2010 (4:13 pm)
I would like to remove or puncture the bladder as it causes more serious problems than it solves. Any clues where to start?
#96 of 114 Gas Tank Not Filling
by stevegold
Feb 09, 2010 (2:51 pm)
I don't like to pile on but this may be a good time to raise the Prius gas tank issue with Toyota, Washington, the press or others.
I have a friend that is a reporter at Bloomberg.com that I can contact.
Does anyone have any thoughts, one way or another?
#97 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [stevegold]
by jjohur
Feb 09, 2010 (4:22 pm)
I'm surprised how little people are complaining about this issue. There are just a few things I hate about this car. The bladder gas tank is number one on my list. I can never fill up the tank and I don't get the advertised total miles achievable. If they advertise an 11.5 gallon tank I should be able to add that amount approximately if I'm completely empty. What gives??? This was another engineering blunder by Toyota.
#98 of 114 Re: Just an educated guess [pf_flyer]
by mickeyrom
Feb 14, 2010 (4:13 pm)
My 2007 did the same thing.Only filled the tank about .75%
#99 of 114 How accurate is the trip computer?
by mickeyrom
Feb 15, 2010 (3:33 pm)
Since the fill ups are consistently inconsistent,how does one check the accuracy of the trip computer MPG and for that matter what your actual fuel consumption is.
If you fill the tank very slowly,might that cause an overfill and damage something?
#100 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [jjohur]
by stevegold
Feb 19, 2010 (7:39 pm)
Hello Steve.....
You do make a good point about the tank on the prius. the bladder is one of
the many systems in the veh that allows it to be a partial zero emission
designation. no void in the tank= no fuel vapors (into the atmosphere or
having to burn them on decelleration as do most veh's).
plastics are not developed that allow full flexibility when at our winter
temps, and protection during those
100+F days of summer. (we would not want your
fuel tank to pop like a water balloon in the Mohave) & there are sensors
that would light up the dash if the badder would rupture.
as all products will, there will be advances in technology sooner than
later. i.e. batteries and computors.
but i would not look for a major change in the tank designs as of yet.
thank you for your input,
Don Nisbet, Bighorn Toyota, Glenwood Springs, CO
#101 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [stevegold]
by chriscard25
Feb 19, 2010 (10:44 pm)
That may be true, but misleading... As the THC is a PZEV, and does NOT use a bladder. Nor do any of the other PZEV's. It is an engeniring blunder that TMC has ignored and does not care to address. The bladder is terrible, period. I owned and drove a Prius for 2 years, and hated the fuel system. Great mileage, terrible fuel system. Don't be a fanboy and sugarcoat it.
#102 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [chriscard25]
by mickeyrom
Feb 20, 2010 (8:01 am)
How can you tell if the mileage is great if there is no way to accurately check it? Sometimes it will take a fill up, and other times not even close.Can we trust the trip computer?
#103 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [chriscard25]
by stevegold
Feb 20, 2010 (8:07 am)
I don't mind beating up on Toyota M C but the guys at Toyota Bighorn Motor in Glenwood Springs, CO have always been perfect to me and all their other customers I've talked with. They deserve an A+ and have since I first dealt with them in 2004.
If anyone has the right email to complain to TMC or the proper federal agency, I'll send in my complaint. There might be a news outlet that will pick up and run with the story due to all the other problems. Now is the time.
#104 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [chriscard25]
by chriscard25
Feb 20, 2010 (2:40 pm)
The computer is going to be accurate within a percent or so--so yeah, I am certain when I owned my prius I got great mileage. When you can go 550 miles on a tank, as I have, you can presume the mileage is good:)
I am not picking on a dealer, just mis-information. The bladder design is not an intregal part of the prius being a prius. A tank like any other PZEV would still allow it to do and be everything a prius is and stands for.