Prius and filling the tank

114 messages,  Last post on Jan 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Prius, Fuel System, Hatchback, Sedan

#92 of 114 Re: Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me! [yermell] by stevegold

Dec 26, 2009 (10:46 pm)

Replying to: yermell (Sep 29, 2008 4:52 am)
I love my 2004 Prius despite several annoying issues, but the gas tank issue is really serious and more than annoying. It is probably caused by the bladder in the gas tank which can't possibly add anything really important especially at the great innonvienience it causes. My Prius was OK the first three winters and then the problem surfaced. Very bad

#93 of 114 Re: Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me! [dmathews3] by sevdogjr

Dec 29, 2009 (7:45 pm)

Replying to: dmathews3 (Feb 12, 2009 2:59 pm)
Why buy? to lower one's carbon footprint? To save fossil fuels. To drive an otherwise great car. I just got back from a trip and found my tank "filled" from half way after 2.2 gallons.... all the while I was constantly clicking the gas nozzle on b/c it kept shutting off as if full. I drove away and the gauge read the same. 15 miles later, the same thing, 15 miles farther and the darned thing overflowed but it finally read full.

#94 of 114 Problem filling Prius gas tank by tgmartin

Jan 21, 2010 (1:51 pm)

I have a 2008 Toyota Prius I purchased new about 21 months ago and have driven 21,000 miles. The gas gage has never worked correctly and the mileage goes from 33 to 50mpg but mostly around 39 mpg in winter. The worst problem is not being able to fill up the tank. It will not allow the tank to fill at many gas pumps. It is the bladder problem that has been posted here. I have an appointment with the dealer Tuesday as I told them I am tired of them telling me this is not a problem. When you can't fill up your gas tank - it is a big problem.
 
The impression I get from the posts is that people are willing to put up with this because of the other good things about the Prius. I can't believe I paid over $22,000 for a vehicle that has a serious problem like this and the manufacturer thinks it is not a problem. I want my money back!

#95 of 114 Re: Problem filling Prius gas tank [tgmartin] by stevegold

Jan 21, 2010 (4:13 pm)

Replying to: tgmartin (Jan 21, 2010 1:51 pm)
I would like to remove or puncture the bladder as it causes more serious problems than it solves. Any clues where to start?

#96 of 114 Gas Tank Not Filling by stevegold

Feb 09, 2010 (2:51 pm)

I don't like to pile on but this may be a good time to raise the Prius gas tank issue with Toyota, Washington, the press or others.
I have a friend that is a reporter at Bloomberg.com that I can contact.
Does anyone have any thoughts, one way or another?

#97 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [stevegold] by jjohur

Feb 09, 2010 (4:22 pm)

Replying to: stevegold (Feb 09, 2010 2:51 pm)
I'm surprised how little people are complaining about this issue. There are just a few things I hate about this car. The bladder gas tank is number one on my list. I can never fill up the tank and I don't get the advertised total miles achievable. If they advertise an 11.5 gallon tank I should be able to add that amount approximately if I'm completely empty. What gives??? This was another engineering blunder by Toyota.

#98 of 114 Re: Just an educated guess [pf_flyer] by mickeyrom

Feb 14, 2010 (4:13 pm)

Replying to: pf_flyer (Mar 06, 2007 1:17 pm)
My 2007 did the same thing.Only filled the tank about .75%

#99 of 114 How accurate is the trip computer? by mickeyrom

Feb 15, 2010 (3:33 pm)

Since the fill ups are consistently inconsistent,how does one check the accuracy of the trip computer MPG and for that matter what your actual fuel consumption is.
If you fill the tank very slowly,might that cause an overfill and damage something?

#100 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [jjohur] by stevegold

Feb 19, 2010 (7:39 pm)

Replying to: jjohur (Feb 09, 2010 4:22 pm)
Hello Steve.....
 
You do make a good point about the tank on the prius. the bladder is one of
the many systems in the veh that allows it to be a partial zero emission
designation. no void in the tank= no fuel vapors (into the atmosphere or
having to burn them on decelleration as do most veh's).
 
plastics are not developed that allow full flexibility when at our winter
temps, and protection during those
100+F days of summer. (we would not want your
fuel tank to pop like a water balloon in the Mohave) & there are sensors
that would light up the dash if the badder would rupture.
 
as all products will, there will be advances in technology sooner than
later. i.e. batteries and computors.
but i would not look for a major change in the tank designs as of yet.
 
thank you for your input,
Don Nisbet, Bighorn Toyota, Glenwood Springs, CO

#101 of 114 Re: Gas Tank Not Filling [stevegold] by chriscard25

Feb 19, 2010 (10:44 pm)

Replying to: stevegold (Feb 19, 2010 7:39 pm)
That may be true, but misleading... As the THC is a PZEV, and does NOT use a bladder. Nor do any of the other PZEV's. It is an engeniring blunder that TMC has ignored and does not care to address. The bladder is terrible, period. I owned and drove a Prius for 2 years, and hated the fuel system. Great mileage, terrible fuel system. Don't be a fanboy and sugarcoat it.
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