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90 messages,  Last post on Feb 13, 2009 at 5:29 PM

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Re: Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me! [farmboy3] by dmathews3
Feb 13, 2009 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: farmboy3 (Feb 13, 2009 9:29 am)

That explains a lot but maybe the employer could put these to better use instead of having someone like you who puts a small amount of miles on the vehicle into something else. They are paying at least $3K more for a Prius than say a Chevy Cobalt of compatible car and get in the high 30's on the highway. Keeping them only 3 years they will for most of the vehicles never get a return on their investment though I don't know what kind of deduction they get on their Fed taxes. Personally they shouldn't get any deduction on a non american made vehicle but the Prius may or may not be built in the U.S. one of these days.
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Re: Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me! [farmboy3] by kdhspyder
Feb 13, 2009 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: farmboy3 (Feb 12, 2009 6:13 am)

This 'topping off' that you did is something you NEVER should do. There are two reasons..
 
In the nozzle there is a charcoal cannister to capture the evaporative emissions, clean them then release them into the atmosphere. Topping off can damage this cannister and cause a major expense.
 
In your Gen 2 Prius there is a fuel bladder inside the gas tank. This is what causes so much variability in the quantity of fuel that will be accepted. In new vehicles this bladder is stiff and new. In very cold areas this bladder will be very stiff and unyielding in freezing weather. The risk of topping off like you did is that raw fuel can get between the gas tank and fuel bladder. Then you've got to replace the whole fuel system.
 
DON'T TOP OFF..
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Re: Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me! [dmathews3] by kdhspyder
Feb 13, 2009 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Feb 13, 2009 12:15 pm)

Two problems with your SOTP comparo.
 
The Prius is a 5 door hatchback. It's more similar to the Matrix/Vibe rather than the Corolla/Cobalt.
 
The other is that whatever 'premium' is being paid upfront is almost completely recaptured at resale time after 3 years.
 
In the case of the Matrix/Vibe the 'premium' is $4500 but almost all of that is recaptured when the vehicle is resold. The resale price of a Prius is $3500-$4000 higher than a Matrix/Vibe after 3 years. In ridiculous times like last summer a 3 y.o. Prius with < 30000 miles was actually selling at nearly full sticker price. Little or no loss in depreciation. The tax credits on Toyota hybrids are complete. Ditto Honda. Soon Ford's will begin to phase out.

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