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#65 of 114 Re: Major system hybrid failure with 5,5 l in the tank [pierre12]
Jul 04, 2008 (2:36 pm)
PIerre - way back in March I posted about running out of gaz with my 08 Prius - this being the first time in my life - anyway I did about 47 miles after the blinking started before the motor stopped - I was on the QEW close to Niagara - going 110Km/H. when oops the big red light turned on - so with the electric motor - I did about 1-2 km and was watching my battery. I decided to stop because the book clearly says don't empty your battery. Everytime - my light started blinking in the past I would go maybe 10-20 miles and tank up and I also saw that I had lots of gaz left - like I could still do at least 100KM and more. Anyway - I now know when it blinks - I find a gaz station. I still love our 2 Prius's (05-08) and I placed an order to get a new 08 for my wife and will have an 05 to sell in September - any buyers around?
#66 of 114 Re: Toyota Prius is a SAFETY HAZARD [priusdar]
Jul 23, 2008 (6:08 am)
Just saw your post.
You CANNOT trust anything posted over at CA because none of it is verifieable. BTW, Consumer Affairs IS NOT Consumer Reports.
CA is a site run by lawyers, look at the fine print deeper in the site, who are trolling for scared and unknowledgable owners of anything who are angry or just don't understand how certain things work. They are trying to gather data from 'reports' in order to see if there is sufficient interest to open a class action lawsuit.
This has nothing to do with Toyota specifically. CA wants to sue every manufacturer of any product; drugs, carseats, autos, toys, you name it. Its only purpose is to gather data so that the lawyers can make money by filing class action suits. The one thing that they DONT have is any verifiable proven data on any complaint, it's all 'he said...she said stuff'. In addition and this is most damning, the complainers don't even have to own the product on which they are filing the complaint. A complaint(s) on the Prius can be filed by the Chrysler Marketing Dept. Complaints about Chevy trucks can be filed by a Toyota dealership. And....complaints about the bladder variability issue can even be made by the CA staff themselves to see if this net catches any unsuspecting fish.
That's all that CA compiles, complaints. Better you should look at the NHTSA website.
#67 of 114 Re: Toyota States NO FIX for Bladder defect [priusdar]
Jul 23, 2008 (6:25 am)
I have my 2005 at 83000 mi plus. I too have experienced the 'bladder variability issue' on rare occasions.
But going over the top on such a silly inconsequential issue is silly. HINT: Use your common sense.
I'm sure that you didn't have this explained to you when you took delivery of your Prius. If it had been explained to you up front then you'd be able to deal with the variability.
Simply put, don't let the bars go below 2. At the 2-bar level you will have driven about 350-400 miles ( MFD indication ). When the bars hit 2 look for a gas station. At that time you will put in about 7-8 gal of fuel ( 380 mi / 48 mpg = ~8 gal ). That's it. It really is that simple. Trust me on this after 83000 miles. I have a friend who's at 205,000 miles on his 2004 and he's never run out of gas.
Common sense has a lot to do with it. If you've driven 350 miles and your MFD is showing 50 mpg then you should 'expect' to add about 7 gal. So what if the pump shuts off after 4.5 gal? Common sense. Bleed in another 2.5 gal. It will work it only takes common sense. How do I know this? I've been at 1 bar knowing that I should put in about 9+ gal. However for whatever technical variability the pump shut off after 3/4 of a gallon. Well I know that can't be right. Common sense tells me that somehow I have to put in more than 3/4 of a gallon. I'm sure that I have to put in between 8-10 gallon, 3/4 of a gallon just will not fill the tank.
Now if you WANT to blow this out of proportion that's always your choice, just don't expect a lot of love from anyone other than CA. If you're a troll, then enjoy your life as one.
#68 of 114 Re: Prius and filling the tank [jchshade1969]
Jul 26, 2008 (5:29 am)
Stick it in! All the way!
Or maybe try another pump with a different nozzle.
No problem w/my '07.
Sometimes have problem w/wife's '06 Hybrid Mariner. I just reposition the nozzle and go on filling.
#69 of 114 Re: Prius and filling the tank [dgw2]
Jul 26, 2008 (5:32 am)
What the heck is a T4, 05?
Izit a M.Y. 2005?
T4, does that refer to the latest Terminator model? I thot they were in the 2000s models by now.
#70 of 114 Re: Prius and filling the tank [whitey9]
Aug 06, 2008 (5:04 pm)
"T4, does that refer to the latest Terminator model? I thot they were in the 2000s models by now. "
I seem to recall that the latest Terminator was the the cyberdyne T1000.
#71 of 114 Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me!
Sep 27, 2008 (8:29 pm)
My 2008 Toyota Prius has had challenges with both filling the "tank" and calculating mileage since I purchased the car. I have never expected the car's average mileage to be dead on, but close would be nice. I certainly never expected not to be able to fill up my gas tand wither. I just got back from another lengthly road trip. In the summer, I still have challenges acutally getting the tank filler. Also, the mileage, when calculated by hand, differed as much as 11 mpg ... with the car noting the fuel economy was better than acutally achieved. I was only getting in the high 30's on this trip ... ugh!!! Recently, I took the Prius into Toyota to have the fuel gauge recalibrated (this would have been the third time). Toyota told me that the difference can be up to 15 mpg difference and that there was nothing wrong with the car. While waiting for the car to be taken care of, I looked around the car lot ... I now have a 2009 Toyota Camry SE (my 1992 Camry has over 250K on it). No more worries about all the different issues I experienced with my Prius ... I am looking forward to seeing how my Camry runs! No more Prius issue, no more wondering what else will crop up with the Prisu ...
#72 of 114 Re: Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me! [priusdar]
Sep 29, 2008 (4:52 am)
Well I am sorry to hear that the previous poster had such a bad experience with his/her Prius. Since having trouble filling my tank last winter it did cure itself as the weather got warmer. I have also kept track of all of my mileage since the first fillup. I now have 52,000 miles on an '06. My car's recorded mileage and my hand calculated mileage are usually within 1-2 mpg and neither is one or the other routinely higher or lower, they vary. The one new thing I'd like to publicize is that when I needed new tires this past spring, I reviewed this and other websites and ended up buying the Nokian (althoughI had never heard of them before.) Since putting on the Nokian's filled with nitrogen my mileage calculated either way has been 53-55 mpg with every fill up. Prior to this my mileage was 48-52 mpg (non-winter).
#73 of 114 Re: Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me! [yermell]
Oct 26, 2008 (8:27 am)
I have an '09 which I just purchased. Having purchased and driven other cars without tank problems(lol) I drove 400 miles on my first tank and was assuming I should get roughly 450 miles since the gauge told me my average mpg was 45. That would leave me roughly with 1.9 gallons since the tank holds 11.9. So at this point I'm at the 1 bar level according to the gauge. I get to the gas station and I can only fill 5.3 gallons. I keep trying but I can't add more so I think to myself that this is very strange (not having heard of this gas bladder problem). I proceed to call the service advisor at Toyota only to be told the most ridiculous answer. She said I should never let the tank get below 1/3 empty (about 3-4 bars) and if I do it could take 3-4 refills to bring the tank back to normal. I almost busted out laughing at this highly technical response. What a load of %$%$# BS. I said to her if that were truly the case Toyota would have the early early very early running out of gas light come on to notify the driver. I did not hear or see anything at the 1/3 level. I looked at the manual and didn't find any reference to this absolutely stupid statement. In my opinion, this tank issue is a clear product defect and bad design at best. I can still only fill 5-6 gallons of gas in this tank even though I have 1 bar showing. I'm going to start documenting this deficiency during my next few visits to the dealer and then I will proceed to check with a lemon law attorney (they are free by the way) if the dealer doesn't fix this problem. I want to be able to use and fill up my tank completely any time, any day, and at any gas station and not worry about if it's warm or cold, if it's gas station x vs y, and if it's a blue moon as the service advisor continued to tell me ...
Oct 26, 2008 (9:48 pm)
I've owned over 50 cars in my life and very few had a gas gauge that I'd trust with certanty. With new technology (ie: bladder-tank) comes unique issues. I have over 91K miles on an '04 Prius and I can honestly say that the filling of the gas tank has usually been uneventfull. Very cold weather has been troublesome but every Prius owner knows that. I actually think it's nit-picking abit to make such an issue but perhaps there are some owners that are experiencing more irregularities with filling up. Lastly ...If you can't deal with this quirk.....Sell it and get almost most of your cash back.