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Re: Bladder issue really worth getting upset over? [sherry9]
by railroadjames
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Mar 31, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: sherry9 (Mar 31, 2008 4:20 pm)
Worth mentioning is the method by which the Prius should be filled. My point being: Over the last 4 plus yrs of filling my '04 Prius I found that filling very slowly makes fill-ups attain maximum fill. When I do hit the blinking fuel gauge lite I know I can go approx. 25 miles. With that in mind, I find fill-ups usually are about 9 to 10 gallons. Again I reinterate. FILL VERY SLOWLY. It works for me. Last note...Winter's very cold weather does vary fill-ups about a gallon or so less.
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- #27 of 90
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Re: Bladder issue really worth getting upset over? [railroadjames]
by sergelbergeron
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Apr 01, 2008 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: railroadjames (Mar 31, 2008 4:53 pm)
Well spring is almost here in Canada. I will watch this closely this summer and next winter. On my 05 and the 08 and I will advise - up here in Canada we are in litres so I will be converting. It is still a great car - I just wish I could depend on the gauge - is full really full?
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- #28 of 90
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Flap covering filler hole?
by stevegold
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Apr 11, 2008 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: sergelbergeron (Apr 01, 2008 4:00 pm)
Does your Prius (or HH) have a spring loaded round metal flap that covers the hole where the filler nozzle gets inserted? My 2004 does not, but it may have fallen in the tank causing the filling problems I experienced a few months ago. I don't remember if there ever was such a flap. Other owners report having such a flap.
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- #29 of 90
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Re: Flap covering filler hole? [stevegold]
by sherry9
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Apr 13, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: stevegold (Apr 11, 2008 7:58 pm)
Not that I know of.
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- #30 of 90
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Re: Prius and filling the tank [jchshade1969]
by gscheil1
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Apr 28, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: jchshade1969 (Mar 06, 2007 11:00 am)
Add gas very,very,very slowly.
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- #31 of 90
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Re: Flap covering filler hole? [sherry9]
by stevegold
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Apr 28, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: sherry9 (Apr 13, 2008 10:47 am)
There is no flap. The problem must have been caused by very cold temperatures that did something to the rubber bladder in the tank. Once it warmed up, the problem disappeared. I don't know why it never happened in previous winters.
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- #32 of 90
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Re: Flap covering filler hole? [stevegold]
by sherry9
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Apr 29, 2008 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: stevegold (Apr 28, 2008 7:04 pm)
I'm glad your problem disappeared. Mine hasn't. It is now 70-80 degrees here and I still can't put in more than 7 gallons. I went for my arbitration hearing on the 18th and won my case. Toyota will be replacing my car within the next 45 days. It was very interesting listening to the representative from Toyota disputing my claim. According to her, there is no way to measure the amount of gas in the tank ( I thought that was what the gas gauge was for ), you cannot go by what it says in the owners manuel because it is wrong, and Toyota feels that there is nothing wrong with my car, that is how they all perform. I don't think so. Regardless, I love this car and am replacing it with another Prius.
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- #33 of 90
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Re: Flap covering filler hole? [sherry9]
by stevegold
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Apr 29, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: sherry9 (Apr 29, 2008 7:18 am)
Congratulations on winning your case. Too bad they couldn't fix it but now you will end up with a new car. Not bad.
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First Gas Fill-Up
by rolin
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Apr 30, 2008 (9:11 am)
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First, let me say that the input I have read here is most valuable information and it's groups like this that keep us, the consumers, well informed.
IToday I saw that my gas tank was at half full. Last Friday, I picked the new car up from the dealer (Prius 2008) and they had the tank filled upon delivery. Ok, so we are at 1/2 of a tank of gas and the total miles to date is 117. My first concern in that if a half of a tank is approximately 5-6 gallons, and I went only 117 miles, the gas mileage realized was close to 20 MPG. HOWEVER, the consumption meter shows an average of 44 MPG. Ok, I have read that I need to give this time, etc., which I am willing to do.
However, today, on 1/2 of a tank, I decided to fill it up. I started filling it in the usual way, and the gas cut off at under 3 gallons. I had read the above posts last night, so I was sort of expecting this problem to occur. I repeated this several time, trying to fill the tank, but it kept clicking off. I then proceeded to fillit ever so slowly, guessing that I had better stop at approximately 5 gallons. I was very concerned of a back-flow, and didn't want to have a mess of gas on the ground.
I drove right to the service section of the Toyota place where I purchased this car last Friday, and the service Mgr. told me to bring it right in when I get down to 1/2 to 1/4 of a tank, and they would see if their attempt to fill up would be a problem as well. While I was waiting for the Mgr, I asked a fellow who had purchased the same car a few months ago. I asked him if he had the same problem and he said he did not. There is an obvious problem here. I don't think one should "guess" at how much fuel to put into the car. I love the car but I am starting to pray that this is not a lemon situation. I would appreciate any input. Thank you
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Re: First Gas Fill-Up [rolin]
by sherry9
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May 01, 2008 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: rolin (Apr 30, 2008 9:11 am)
When I bought my car April 07, I never had a problem filling it up. The most I put in was 10 gallons and that was with 1 bar still showing. My mpg started out at 37-40 and has gradually gotten better. I am now consistent at at least 45 or better. Mileage will improve as the car gets broke in. I did not have any problem till the end of Oct into Nov. As it got colder, the amount of gas I put in went down to 8-9 gallons but my mpg was consistent with the amount of gas I put in the car. That changed in December. I was getting 400-450 miles per tank an I went to under 300 per tank. If you look in your owners manual at the gas tank specs, it will say an 11.9 gal tank with a shrinkage of the interior liner of the tank up to 1.3 gal in temps 14 degrees or below. Needless to say, mine shrank a whole lot more than that. The most I can put in now is 7 gallons and it is 80 degrees here. Do not let them tell you this is normal, it is not. I know this cannot occur on every Prius out there or nobody would be happy. Maybe you have one with the same problem as mine, but I hope not. The benefits of this car still far outweigh the drawbacks. I am replacing it with the same car again and hope I do not have this problem again. If so, we'll just go another round this winter. If I had bought the car used, I would have lived with it. Like you, I bought a new car and expect it to perform like a new car should.
When you said you put gas in it, did it take 5 gallons to fill it up or only 3 that you put in? There is a problem with the flap in the tank as you are filling up, it cuts off. I haven't had this problem. If that is the case, then your consumption screen with the mpg could be reading wrong. Any way you look at it, something is not right.
Hope this helps you. Let me know what they tell you. Thanks.
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