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RAV4 v Outlander v Vitara - and the winner is...

26 messages,  Last post on May 15, 2007 at 9:27 PM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota RAV4, Mitsubishi Outlander, Suzuki Grand Vitara, SUV


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Rav4 v. Outlander v. Vitara - and the winner is... by machlda
Mar 03, 2007 (4:07 pm)
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RAV4 - I've been in high pre-buying gear in this size segment. Have driven them all city and highway. RAV4 blows the others away - I drove the v6 Rav4 and it compared favorably with the Mitsi (Mitsi had more raw power) but was so much more refined - smoother and quiet. The Outlander handled well and was fun but more "trucky" ride than RAV4. The inside on the Toyota though is so much more refined and quality abounds. The Outlander just had less of a quality feel inside - very plain and the plastic...
 
The RAV4 handled well, very tight steering and smooth exceleration. It was more quiet at high speeds.
 
Oh yeah, the Suzuki - pretty inside but on the road, it was sluggish compared to the others - seemed like a 4 cylinder instead of the touted 6 banger. Also, quite a bit of engine noise. I drove it the same day as the RAV4 and the difference between how the two drive and handle is pronounced.
 
My only dislike of the RAV4 is the silly tire on the back and the resulting side-swing tail gate. Mitsi has a better idea. BUT, as my better half says...I'll get over it.
 
Honey, where is the check book?
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Re: Rav4 v. Outlander v. Vitara - and the winner is... [machlda] by biscuit_xls
Mar 03, 2007 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: machlda (Mar 03, 2007 4:07 pm)

I think the Outlander looks much better inside and out than the RAV4. Some of the plastic on the RAV4, especially on the doors with the black Sport interior, is shiny and econo-car looking.
 
Other things that swayed me to the Outlander:
 
Nav (even better now that I know how well it works)
6 speed tranny
Paddle shifters
30gb Music Server
Flip up rear hatch
No tire on hatch
Xenon headlights
Keyless entry & ignition
Flip and roll 2nd row seats
Longer warranty
Free 5 year roadside assistance
 
The RAV4 was a close second for me.
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Re: Rav4 v. Outlander v. Vitara - and the winner is... [machlda] by piast
Mar 04, 2007 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: machlda (Mar 03, 2007 4:07 pm)

"RAV4 blows the others away"
Not in my book. We have this discussion back in Nov on Hyundai Santa Fe vs RAV4 vs CX7 forum. Check posts from #325
 Turns out the only thing RAV4 is better than Outlander is straight line acceleration. It looses in value, performance, agility and handling, interior design and materials, rear leg room (39") and cargo room (39 cu ft), warranty and price as well.
In Dec Motor Trend the interior in Mitsu received four stars, RAV4 got three. Both cars can tow 3500 lbs, both using regular fuel. Some handling numbers from that issue:
                        Outlannder.......RAV4
Braking ft........ .... 128..............130
600ft slalom mph ...... 62.7.............60.6
Lateral acceleration .g 078..............0.75
MT figure 8 (sec) ..... 28.3.............28.6
07 Outlander was outselling RAV 4 and CRV in Japan 3:1 last year.
There is some more from Cars.com
"..The automatic transmission is almost as smooth as the new CR-V's, while the engine provides considerably more power. The combination is far superior to the RAV4 despite the Toyota's higher horsepower figure, and the Outlander is a better highway companion overall.... the Outlander handles steeply banked highway onramps with superb control and minimal body lean, giving the driver a sense of confidence not found in many SUVs — compact, car-based or otherwise. The ride was also car-like. Bumps were softly muted and road noise was minimal...Available with an optional manual four-wheel-drive system, the Outlander is one of the more affordable four-wheel-drive SUVs on the market, ...Surprisingly, the new Outlander seems to outclass its competitors on just about every front, although the RAV4 does offer more power with its optional V-6 engine (269 horsepower)."
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Moot points for me. by xostnot
Mar 04, 2007 (7:03 pm)
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What if you really do need a low range?
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Re: Moot points for me. [xostnot] by piast
Mar 05, 2007 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: xostnot (Mar 04, 2007 7:03 pm)

"What if you really do need a low range? "
Then you buy FJ Cruiser, Xterra, or Jeep.
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Re: Moot points for me. [piast] by xostnot
Mar 05, 2007 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: piast (Mar 05, 2007 5:36 am)

What if you don't want nasty back seat accommodations, a gas guzzling tank, or lousy reliability, but still want a low range?
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Re: Moot points for me. [xostnot] by dodo2
Mar 05, 2007 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: xostnot (Mar 05, 2007 1:32 pm)

Some times you need to make compromises in life, including when you buy a car. You cannot always have it all.
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Re: Moot points for me. [dodo2] by xostnot
Mar 05, 2007 (11:19 pm)
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Replying to: dodo2 (Mar 05, 2007 2:26 pm)

Let me phrase it another way. There are some people for whom the feature set, price etc, will be best met by the new Grand Vitara. Such as myself.
 
This is despite the comments by some that suggest different vehicles would better meet the needs of all those people. Bear in mind that the new GV is several times as popular as the previous edition. So either all those people have made an error, or the dissing is unwarranted.
 
Similarly, some people's preferences will best be met by _____ vehicle. Fill in the blank as you prefer.
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Re: Moot points for me. [xostnot] by steve_ HOST
Mar 06, 2007 (1:09 am)
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Replying to: xostnot (Mar 05, 2007 11:19 pm)

Similarly, some people's preferences will best be met by _____ vehicle. Fill in the blank as you prefer.
 
I always wind up putting "a paid off in full" comment in that blank.
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Re: Moot points for me. [xostnot] by dodo2
Mar 06, 2007 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: xostnot (Mar 05, 2007 11:19 pm)

Similarly, some people's preferences will best be met by _____ vehicle. Fill in the blank as you prefer.

 
Do not forget that you are on an Outlander forum, so it's easy to anticipate the answers you'll be getting.
 
Yes, you guessed, my answer would be: 2007 Outlander LS 4WD w/ Fog and Phone package.

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