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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

653 messages,  Last post on Dec 05, 2009 at 2:22 PM

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Re: bvdj84 [lehrer1] by vanman1
Dec 02, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: lehrer1 (Nov 24, 2009 8:05 pm)

"I drove a brand new Malibu, 4L, A two years ago in Montana. Was impressed by the engine and transmission. But the new car had a rattling noise in dashboard and annoying reflection in the wind shield from the top of dashboard. GM has a way to go to be on par with Honda".
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Keep in mind that was a rental.
 
GM is on par as far as I'm concerned. I have had my 08 Malibu for over a year and not one rattle or issue. My friend has an Accord and every time he sits in my car he comments on how much he likes it. I always tell him, buy one!
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Re: bvdj84 [vanman1] by dmathews3
Dec 03, 2009 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Dec 02, 2009 5:10 pm)

It isn't fair to judge a car if it is a rental unless it has zero miles and you are the very first customer to drive it. If it only had one rattle that says a lot for the car since it is used and abused daily and I've seen reflections in lots of cars I have driven. I haven't seen a dash that shined unless they put some kind of protectent on it as all car makers know enough not to produce shiny dashes.
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Re: bvdj84 [dmathews3] by berri
Dec 03, 2009 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Dec 03, 2009 7:47 am)

I dunno - kind of like experiencing them with 20K or more, gives an idea how the various rentals hold up to abuse.
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Re: bvdj84 [berri] by elroy5
Dec 03, 2009 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Dec 03, 2009 5:52 pm)

Right, you can get an idea of how the car will hold up over time and mileage, from a rental. For instance, I had an 06 Impala as a rental, and it felt older than my 03 Accord with twice the age, and three times the mileage. I doubt that car had gone through more abuse/use than my car, but it sure felt old, with only 15k miles on it. That can't be good for resale value.
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Re: bvdj84 [berri] by dmathews3
Dec 04, 2009 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: berri (Dec 03, 2009 5:52 pm)

Well then as you said it only had a rattle in the dash which could be fixed very easy and a glare off the dash which should be fixed with a little soap and water to get off whatever was put on the dash that made it shine as I haven't seen a dash from the factory in many years that gave off a glare and I have driven a few rentals these past years. I have only owned about 4 foreign cars in my long life and these past 30 years mostly G.M. cars and have had very good luck with them. Granted I don't keep them 200K as some do but you tend to know how a car is going to go in the long run after about 3 years and I feel safe saying I think they all would go the distance if proper maintained. I also feel most cars now days will go 200K without much trouble if proper maintainance is preformed and driven senseablely.
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Re: bvdj84 [dmathews3] by bvdj84
Dec 04, 2009 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Dec 04, 2009 5:05 am)

I never use any cleaners and chemicals on my dash. However, I really should use a protector. When I traded my 06 Accord, the dealer already put on a glop of shiny stuff all over the inside. That would be its first to ever have anything on the dash. Also, it eventually ends up putting haze from the gases on your windows. It is not supposed to be shiny. Oh well, its not mine any more.
 
Also, I honestly don't think 08 G6 would last that long without some major repairs. I know that my transmission will need replaced sooner or later down the road. I won't have to worry about it, but someone will! Way sooner than expected! I am thinking sometime under 100k. I have 25k and its already showing signs, and has been since new!
 
I would wonder wonder about newer GM cars lasting as long. But that's just me.
Sure its a Pontiac, but really no different than any other recent GM product. Such as the Malibu.
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Re: bvdj84 [bvdj84] by cooterbfd
Dec 04, 2009 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Nov 29, 2009 6:32 am)

".....What is going to convince the consumer that they are truly new? Notice, more SUV"s? Yep! If you didn't know, the new Malibu shares alot with the old G6.
The Malibu is just a Pontiac. "
 
First, there are no new "SUV's". They are a trio of "CUV's". Now this may sound like splitting hairs, but there is a HUGE difference in a new Equinox getting 32 mpg vs. a new Tahoe getting 20mpg.
 
I do know that GM is using older platforms. But they are global platforms that have gotten good reviews elsewhere, replacing even OLDER NA platforms. IIRC, the G6 is an Epsillon 2 platform, while the Malibu is Epsillon 1. Similar?? Yes. But if you look at the reviews, the G6 was always "eh.....mezza mezza" while the Aura and Malibu are actually looked at as decent, if not better than most in their class. BOTH cars have scored better than the Camry in tests, but not the Accord ( which is regarded by everyone as the standard bearer in the class).
 
The Difference? They are actually putting more money and thought into the design of the newer models, and it's showing.
 
All you need to look at is the trio of new CUV's. All are based on the Theta platform, which underpinned the former Equinox and Torrent. When I read this, I cringed, as the reviews on the formers vehicles were nothing short of horrendous. Now, all of a sudden, they are leaps and bounds better. Even Caddy has put the SRX on this platform.
 
How is this possible? Direct Injected 4 bangers in the Equinox and Terrain. DI, DOHC V-6's as options, and standard in the Caddy, as opposed to old pushrod sixes. Better suspension components. Better materials for the interior. Better attention to fit and finish.
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Re: bvdj84 [bvdj84] by cooterbfd
Dec 04, 2009 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Dec 04, 2009 7:38 am)

".....Sure its a Pontiac, but really no different than any other recent GM product"
 
What engine do you have in it? the 3.5 or 3.6??? Is it a 4 or 6 speed auto??
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Re: bvdj84 [cooterbfd] by thegraduate
Dec 04, 2009 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Dec 04, 2009 2:56 pm)

IIRC, its the 2.4L with 4-speed.
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rentals by vanman1
Dec 05, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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"I dunno - kind of like experiencing them with 20K or more, gives an idea how the various rentals hold up to abuse".
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Well, there is rough use abuse and then there is abusive abuse. People do some pretty harsh things to rentals.
 
That said, I had an 09 Altima rental in Vegas with 500 miles on it and it has rattles and loose trim already.

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